Bennett left Dallas and immediately began producing as the second tier TE that the Cowboys thought they were getting but never really developed. Ebron has twice the skills as Bennett does and much better hands, although he shares some concentration issues.
WW question for you, in your opinion would we be better off with Ebron in the 1st and maybe Benjamin, Robinson, Adams, or Bryant in the 2nd (best available among them of who you think will be left when we pick)? Or would we be better off with Lee, Cooks, or Beckham jr. (best available among them of who you think will be left when we pick in the first) and a te like Seferian-Jenkins (or obviously Amaro if he's still there when we pick in the 2nd, which I highly doubt)? Basically I'm asking if you think it's better to get Ebron in the first, and the best available wr in the second when we pick? Or a wr in the first like Beckham jr. or Lee and the best available te in the second, which when we pick will probably be Seferian-Jenkins?? Which combo of players gives the team the two most talented players for the next 5 years?
I went with Ebron, but I don't think either will be there at 18. I was hoping they take B. Cooks at 18, but his recent comment about how he is better than DeSean J. worries me a little bit about his character.
Love both prospects but I go Ebron. Superior to Lee from a Match-up perspective at a position with less overall depth within the class. It's a no brainer when you factor in Lee's injury history.
If Ebron is available in Rd 1 you don't pass him over Cooks, Lee & OBJ. I've mentioned this numerous times, Ebron will most likely be gone when the Jets are OTC.....it's moot. I don't think it's a lock we will take a TE in Rd 2. CB, S or OLB could be top considerations if we go WR in Rd 1. I like Cooks, Lee & OBJ about equally, slightly favor Cooks, but would take any of the 3. It's great to see the Jets visiting with all of these top wideouts.
it's kinda tough making mock drafts with idzik he's proven he's a BPA guy, like we are all basically assuming we will go offense first round, but it's more than possible we go defense lol
Many scouting reports on Ebron end with this sentiment or similar: Raw but with a very high ceiling. As enticing as that ceiling is it just doesn't feel like an Idzik move to take a raw player with his first pick. A player like Ebron could be a super star in the league but his best opportunity to hit that ceiling is if he goes to an offensive minded team with an established QB, similar to the situation that Jimmy Graham found himself in with Payton/Brees. It will be exciting to see who Idzik thinks is the BPA at #18 if Ebron, Lee, Cooks, Dennard, Lewan and Mosley are available.
Lee feels like a guy that can come in and contribute immediately to MM's offense, I think he can be inserted into any and all receiving roles MM can think of and run any route. Ebron might not be the multifaceted receiving threat we need him to be for 2014, but he sure as hell has a higher ceiling in terms of value to his position. As such, while Lee is my favorite choice at #18, objectively speaking I think the Jets don't pass up on Ebron if they are actually given the choice between the two. something tells me that thinking will lead to OTHER teams taking him though, so if you had ask me which is more likely to be taken by the jets, its Lee. Jet Lee... love the sound of that.
Listening to a Draft Inisder Podcast: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/draft_insider/2014/03/21/draft-insider-podcast-red-flags-everywhere And they were just talking about as good as Ebron is, he has a very "Me First" personality, that is so bad it has turned off his teamates from North Carolina. Hadn't heard that said about him before. If the Jets didn't want D.Jackson because of attitude issues in the locker room (which I realize is just speculation) - could that (or should that) affect the Jets view on drafting Ebron?
Geno Smith had the same reputation around him and we were calling to trade up to nab him in round 2.....and Geno has been anything but the listed as far as his personality goes. Its all smoke screen BS. Besides, Ebron doesn't have anywhere near what Jackson had over him.
http://espn.go.com/blog/tennessee-titans/post/_/id/6256/how-close-is-eric-ebron-to-a-sure-thing This article is BS. I guess it depends on how you define the terms, but in my estimation the only "top pick" TEs in this generation to make a "big impact" are Vernon Davis and Tony Gonzalez. And Vernon Davis didn't break out until his 4th year. The most explosive TEs in recent memory have been 2nd (Gronk), 3rd (Jimmy Graham), and 4th (Jordan Cameron) rounders, and undrafted FAs (Antonio Gates). Meanwhile, the 1st round NFL draft landscape over the years has been littered with either busts or flotsam, a significant percentage of which was drafted and discarded by our very own New York Jets: Johnny Mitchell, Kyle Brady, Anthony Becht, Bubba Franks, Dustin Keller, Brandon Pettitgrew, Jermaine Gresham, Kellen Winslow Jr., etc. Greg Olsen (31st pick), Dallas Clark (24th), Heath Miller (30th), and Todd Heap (31st) are (or were) good players, but they were taken at the end of the 1st round. Jeremy Shockey was taken @ 14 overall. I think Ebron's a bust. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Could North Carolina tight end Eric Ebron be about the surest thing the Tennessee Titans could draft if he's on the board at No. 11? It's not a big position of need with Delanie Walker on the roster. Ebron But the Titans do have a head coach who was an NFL tight end in Ken Whisenhunt. Whisenhunt's tight ends coach has been an NFL head coach with two different teams. Mike Mularkey was also a NFL tight end. "I highly doubt Ebron would be available for the Titans," ESPN.com's resident scout, Matt Williamson said. "But I do think they would love to have him. Still, I am high enough on Walker that tight end wouldn't be my top priority." Ty Schalter of Bleacher Report did an interesting piece on he likelihood of players panning out based on how they ultimately score in Pro Football Reference's Approximate Value. Schalter looked at first- and second-round picks over 10 drafts whose players have at least three years of NFL experience. "Just 14.8 percent of top-pick tight ends go three years without standing out," Schalter writes. "An incredible 81.4 percent of them make a big impact in either their first or second years. Just one tight end in this entire data set, Anthony Fasano, flopped in his first two seasons and blossomed in his third. Generally speaking, if a tight end hasn't become good after two years, he isn't going to." Recent history bodes well for a top-rated tight end contributing early. How much that plays into the thinking of the team that takes him is something we may never know.
