I'd understand the claim that he was cheating if he had bionic legs that made him faster than any other human, but clearly he was at a significant disadvantage missing his lower legs and using some prosthetics that are nothing more than fancy stilts. it is hard to claim he got some unlawful advantage by missing his lower legs and using stilts to compete just because the stilts are more high-tech than your common prosthetic. sure, they would be an advantage against other amputees who did not have comparable devices, but are hardly an advantage against the actual legs of Olympic quality runners.
I'm totally with you. I still can't understand how he was allowed in the Olympics with fake legs. Incomprehensible. _
Athletes with real legs can get sprains, pulls, tears, fatigue, cramps in their lower legs. This guy cannot. _
are we talking about drugs or are we claiming wearing stilts instead of having actual legs is an enhancement?
I was clearly alluding to the contraptions attached to his knees. As for drugs, all of them, or just some may have used.
that's a silly argument to make that those stilts enhanced his body more than having his lower legs. that's the point -- not that it enhanced his body compared to missing his lower legs, no shit that did, but whether it enhanced his body compared to his competitors that have legs and thus gave him an advantage over those competitors, not other handicapped people. no it didn't. and if someone was paralyzed from the waist down didn't have a wheel chair they wouldn't be able to move around at all. is a wheel chair actually enhancing their body? of course not. yeah, because not having lower legs doesn't have any other issues that have to be over come when trying to run wearing stilts. what about soldiers who have their legs blown off, they sure have it better than the rest of us not havnig to worry about leg cramps, right. I bet they feel like they have such an advantage in life wearing their prosthetics over someone who can just jump out of bed and move around freely because they live such a blessed life free ofleg cramps. holy shit what a ridiculous statement, man. you made that with clearly zero consideration for what that actually would mean when not narrowly applied only to Pistorious. you still want to defend that claim? Or am I missing the sarcasm?
I think there was a genuine controversy regarding the technology of his prosthetics in that they were designed with more spring or something that actually enabled him to run faster than he otherwise would have likely been able to had he had real lower legs and feet. There is just no apples to apples comparison between someone running on real legs and someone running on technologically enhanced prosthetics.
Where did you learn to debate, the Red Herring School of Debating? What do soldiers having legs blown off have to do with the most finely tuned athletes in the world? What is that a sympathy zig zag? What about the fireman and cops hurt in the line of fire? What about them? Or children with cancer? What about the puppies? We aren't discussing me or you getting up out of the bed in the morning with aches and pains or soldiers getting legs blown off. And whether we should have sympathy for them. We are talking about THE most finely tuned athletes in the world. Every single element if their entire physiology has to be working perfectly at precisely the same time or the lose by 1/1000th of a second. An ankle sprain or muscle pull or ligament tweak can mean the difference between Gold and eighth place - or no competing at all. That guy has never had an ankle sprain or foot sprain or even a plantars wart. Never had to worry about any of that while training or competing. Not to say his fake legs have other disadvantages but there is no way to compare his legs to an athlete with real legs. He never should have been permitted to compete. Stop with the Wounded Warrior bullshit. Has nothing to do with this discussion. Or maybe you were just being sarcastic. _
I'm pretty sure they studied the shit out of whether or not he had an advantage. Maybe someone could check the Internets for that.
Not really about advantages or disadvantages. There are Olympics for folks like him. The Para Olympics. _
no, you were arguing that because he had prosthetic lower legs that gave him an advantage over athletes simply because it meant he did not get get sprains and aches and cramps and fatigues that someone with a lower leg may get. that could be the only meaning of your asinine statement in response to my direct inquiry about what advantage he received by not having lower legs and using the prosthetics. so, you want to make the narrow argument that not getting those types of inconveniences are only a benefit for an athlete, but not a benefit to non-athletes who are missing their lower legs? what is the difference? how is it a benefit to one but not the other? my calling you on that bullshit argument isn't a red herring, it is calling you out on your illogically narrow claim. for your claim to have any logical merit, it has to be broad. either getting get cramps and sprains is a benefit to those with out lower legs, including wounded soldiers, and provides some sort of advantage to them compared to others who have their legs, or it is not a benefit. that's as asinine as claiming that people who are paralyzed have an advantage in traveling about the city because their legs don't get tired and ignoring the other issues that likely offset that one benefit. of course, most people would not believe that not getting tired legs is simply the repercussion of their disadvantage -- not actually being able to feel their legs, not an advantage.
I hope you are just trolling because your whole line of reasoning here is laughably illogical. Fake lower legs is not an advantage! What a joke.
Again with the red herring. If you want to discuss the relative merits or difficulties people in society have with prosthetic limbs, have at it. It is irrelevant and asinine in the context in a discussion as to whether a supremely fine tuned athlete avoids one of the pitfalls of all athletes if he has fake legs. Your whole line of reasoning is flawed and a bit naive. What normal people with prosthetics face in the terms of hardships is irrelevant. We're talking about Olympic athletes. But continue your asinine diatribe. Don't forget to mention soldiers with legs blown off, that matters in a discussion of Olympic athletes. _
There were mixed findings. I wasn't even going that far with it, though. There are competitions for people with major handicaps. Pistorius should have been in them as opposed to the Olympics. A running competition where one guy is running through the use of man made devices as a substitute for legs does not sit well with me. Hey everybody, look at the insensitive man!
