I don't get the whole we're screwed because we let Cromartie go. Cromartie was not good last year, actually he was pretty awful. Matching what Cro did last season will not be very difficult. If Milliner improves like so many think he will, our CB's will actually be better than they were last year. Health permitting, Patterson will absolutely match Cro's production from last season. Unfortunately, Patterson's health is a big "if." If Walls improves, he may be able to match Cro's production as well. Wilson can stay in the slot, although I like the idea of him at Free Safety. Basically, I don't want to be forced to select a CB with the first rounder though. That pick should be strictly for the Best Player Available (Besides interior DL). I don't know how good the remaining CB's in Free Agency are, but I wouldn't be opposed to signing one more. Just insure that we don't pick an inferior player just because its a need. I'd be happy with Dennard, but I don't want to pass up a better player if one is there.
Yes, the Jets need another wideout, preferably a first round pick, although i am familiar with the argument that there is much depth at taht position this year, so perhaps a seecond round might be acceptable. Cumberland I had high hopes for two years ago, but I doubt he's going to amount to much. I understand TE is not likely to get attention in the draft, though. More in need is the team needs to invest big time in the OL. As for the O overall, I agree that either Vick or Smith will have to get it done for this to be a good season, but there is still good reason to invest in the O at other positions. I am tired of hearing people defend Smith because of a perceived lack of help. I did not think that was hte main reason he sucked last year, but sure, let's see if more talent makes a difference. Next year they will eitehr have found their Qb this year, or the Jets will seek one elsewhere. But if the rest of pieces on O are in place, they can do that and field a competitive offense. I don't think they make a big move at safety, frankly. I think OLB is still a problem, a bigger problem. I take it they are going to stick with Coples and an aging Pace, though. That leaves Cb.
OLB is a huge problem but I didn't mention it because I agree with you, it seems like we'll be sticking with Coples and Pace. I'm not sold on Smith and Vick can't be relied upon for a full season so I wouldn't rule us out of taking a QB somewhere in this draft, in an ideal world Geno would stop turning the ball over at a historic pace and our offense can finally be top 15 in the league to help out our defense.
What about the post where I showed where LeSean McCoy was responsible for about as many yards as our top rusher and top 3 receivers combined? He also score more touchdowns than our top 3 scorers. Holmes was in the top of the league in drops last year. Smith was a rookie, and had a poor cast. Despite what people think, Decker is a huge upgrade to Holmes, and just having Kerley healthy is big too. Add talent in the draft, and a year of improvement, and Smith will be better.
The pass D suffered while Cro was hurting. I never said he had a good year. My recollection is they were something like 26th.
Imo the current roster will be adequate at run D from the OLB position, and there is some chance Coples will upgrade his game overall. Pace had a pretty good year last year, which is why he is coming back, and he's been relatively healthy lately. Still there's not much to expect here in terms of a pass rush, and Pace is getting older. I agree OLB is a problem if this team wants to supplement that DL with an edge rusher. Imo they will not go Qb with a high pick unless they think a top prospect inexplicably falls to them. Why waste a lower round pick on a project? THey already have Simms.
you keep talking about how we haven't replaced him. It's not difficult to upgrade the level we got from cro last year. In fact this could be addition by subtraction considering Rex's propensity to put him on an island like he's Revis even though he keeps getting shitted on because he's not.
Kyle Wilson is an 80 yard touchdown waiting to happen. He is horrendous as a starting CB and is just barely serviceable as a slot corner. Kyle Wilson flat out stinks. Entering his 4th year .... I would be shocked to see him improve by leaps and bounds .... Which is what it would take for him to even be a decent stop gap starting corner Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
Don't be so sure about sticking with Pace and Coples .... Remember, just 2 years ago the Jets were going to take 3-4 OLB pass rush specialist Bruce Irvin. That was a fact. Sea took him right before we picked. Keep in mind that since then, 2 years later the Jets still don't have a bonafide 3-4 OLB pass rushing terror. So if he was going to be the pick 2 years ago, the position has never been improved, I'm going to assume that OLB is a very real possibility at #18. I would not be surprised at all to hear Dee Ford's name called, or Ryan Shazier or any other highly regarded OLB pass rusher come 5/8 Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
I would love Dee Ford, amazing burst off the snap and did 30 reps on the bench at his pro day, would have been a top 10 pick had he been injury free.
You're right. Dee Ford is actually my current 2nd favorite player for the Jets at 18 after Dennard. He would be a top 10 pick but his injuries seem to be a thing of the past and he shows up big in big games. Someone has got to post his highlight real on here not enough ppl are talking about him. Some ppl say everyone's highlight clips are impressive, but I dont think that's true. It depends on the lens. Dee Ford's clips leave me impressed and show pass rushing dominance because he has speed and raw power. A deadly combo on third down and all his clips are against the cream of the crop competition. Ryan Shazier is a name I'm hearing more and more of but I have to do more research. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
You don't need highlights for Dee Ford, just watch an Auburn game, even when he doesn't get a sack he is constantly disrupting the pocket and forcing the QB to quick throw or scramble, extremely dominant pass rusher. He also clearly has the strength to develop into a stout run defender as well.
Be like that. Okay, how about this - which ftr I think should have been obvious - in order to get the pass D where it should be, Rex will need a Cb who is capable of playing man coverage. Perhaps not at the same high level as Cro did in 12, but in that same area code. RIght now, that player is not on the roster.
My opinion, and I know you'll disagree, is that Milliner will be that guy and also be much better than Cro was last year. I could be wrong, but he looked like he was turning into something special at the end of the season to me.
Milliner can only play one CB position. RIght now there is no starting caliber Cb on the roster to play the other position. As you well know. The pass D was awful last year. If no one is added, it will still be awful.
When Cro had his good year in 2012, there was no one playing opposite him that was that great. The reason our pass D was bad last year was because Cro and Milliner didn't play well, but Milliner turned it around by the end of the season. Our D was #1 overall when Lito Sheppard was our other corner. A top CB in the draft would help our defense in 1 way but we can play without one.
True, all one needs to do is look at the last 4 games of the season when it was looking like Milliner was starting to turn things around. Those last 4 games the D only gave up 216 yards a game passing as compared to the first 12 games where they gave up 256 yards a game. I realize that not the whole story but a jump from what would be around bottom 5 in the league to top 7 is significant. If Milliner keeps it near that level and they pick up a pass rushing OLB in the draft to get some additional pressure on the QB this will give them a little flexibility in developing someone already on the roster or a mid round pick for the CB2.
I do like Dennard but I think the biggest boost to our defense would be Ha Ha Clinton-Dix. He and OBJ are shaping up to be my favorite players for the Jets in the first round. Either one of them would have me pretty excited.
I am also high on Milliner, and expect him to be a good Cb. But talking about the last quarter of the season is a bit much. One was a loss and in the three wins the Jets were not exactly facing some of the top passing attacks in the league. Remember how Oakland's HC changed out his Qb, twice??? Cleveland had tanked on the season, and the week before Miami only scored seven points against the Jets they had scored none against Buffalo. Heh, Buffalo. In short the last four games of last year are a poor indicator for how the Jet pass D will do with Milliner and a bunch of scrubs.
