Legitimate concerns about Idzik

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  1. Charlie Kelly

    Charlie Kelly Well-Known Member

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    Don't let them get your goat man. A lot of them are just trying to make fans angry with some of the stupidest stuff posted. Don't just assume someone is stupid because they post a stupid comment. It's manipulative garbage
     
  2. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Well according to most recent reports, that's because of the cap room.
     
  3. PinPointPenning10

    PinPointPenning10 Well-Known Member

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    Everyone says Tanny's approach was the wrong one, but those "dumb signings" got us to the brink of back-to-back Super Bowls. They also only put us in "cap hell" for one year, after which we ended up with the most cap room in the NFL. Cap room that the Jets' asleep-at-the-wheel GM is currently not using, despite the fact that this is a roster with major holes that still need to be filled in order for an 8-8 team to turn into a legitimate contender.
     
  4. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Well Rappaport, along with many others, just stated that they pulled out because of the cap.

    And according to the most recent reports, the police have said that they have no ties with DeSean Jackson to any gangs or illegal affairs.
     
  5. DevTeam

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    It was the wrong approach. Every team that you see go deep into the playoffs has hits on mid round draft picks that turn into pro bowlers - there is no other way to build a consistent contender. I was frustrated as hell with Tannenbaum's approach he consistently overspent for FA talent and gave away draft picks like they were balloons at a birthday party for a 5 year old. I'm not an armchair GM but even I know that you build through the draft. That's what we're doing, it's what Seattle, SF, Denver, and CAR have done in the last few years. That's how you do it.
     
  6. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    2 years in the play offs than 3 years and counting of mediocrity as the talent level erodes due to age and lack of draft picks.
    and there is no reason to believe tanny wouldn't have mortgaged more of the future to keep the house of cards from toppling over
     
  7. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Here you fellas go:

    "Changing times: The Jets have 12 draft picks. In Ryan's first three seasons (2009 to 2011), with Mike Tannenbaum as the GM, they had a total of 13."
     
  8. mattyd99

    mattyd99 Well-Known Member

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    The roster has major holes because of his approach. And I would argue the team was in cap hell for few years before Idzik came in and went to work. The top teams in the league build through the draft and solid signings. Winning free agency almost never wins the super bowl.
     
  9. chris5533

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    What's getting lost in all of this is anyone that disapproves of idziks approach is never advocating for signing everyone possible. That was never the case. The jets have a glaring hole at corner that they didn't fill. That was disappointing. Now let's take the DeSean Jackson gang rumors away. We have more cap space than anyone and there an opportunity to grab somone in there prime who's a dynamic player. But ofcourse the jets will most likely not make any attempt to sign him.

    The idea of free agency isn't to build an all madden team, it's to help teams fill holes on the roster.

    Signing Jackson for example would get the jets an amazing wide receiver Corp with not much guess work. That's the idea of free agency and when used properly is more effective than the draft. You never truly know how any college player transitions.

    The jets have 2 major needs wr and corner. Why not take the guess work out of one of those spots? We have so much cap space it seems nuts we won't spend any of it.

    There no true way of building a foundation anymore through the draft. Once free agency comes available half these guys are gone anyway. So it's not like the jets are locking guys up for 10 years. If they prove to be any good you got to expect to lose some of them anyway.

    I disagree that spending no money, hoping for a phenomenal draft sets the jets for the future. Out of the 12 draft picks, assume 6 makes the team, in 3/4 years half of them are gone anyway.

    So free agency is vital to the balance of the league.
     
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    I tend to agree with this. Building through the draft only is the other extreme of buying free agents. Look at seattle. Some of the most important players weren't drafted. Like Michael Bennet, Lynch, Browner, Harvin, and a few others. Need to supplement players like Wilkerson and Richardson and Harrison with smart free agent signings. But free agency isn't over and the draft hasn't happened.

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    take the gang rumors away and djax probably isn't available, so throw that argument away.
    as far as the rest, idzic filled 3 needs with solid contracts that leave the team outs if things don't work out. the problem with free agents coming out after their first contracts is they look for that big guaranteed money that teams end up regretting in year 3 and on. that's what idzic is trying to avoid,i.m.o.
     
  12. chris5533

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    Why isn't he available? Money reasons, the jets have more of it than anyone. While I get it, no team wants to be in cap hell. But as you can see most franchises have come to there senses. The only money that matters is the guarantee. Yes, your gonna take a hit when u sign pro bowl talent. But these number 40, 50 million are almost a joke. These organizations have no intentions of theses guys living out a contract. So I think in some cases spending money is worth it
     
  13. LongIslandBlitz

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    That's it that's all I wanted out of free agency was a corner or saftey and two WRs and I woulda been thrilled.This ridiculous notion that we wanted to blow all of our cap space is a joke and isn't what we are saying here.That combined with the draft would of set us up to be a legit threat.Were talking 3 players here not madden contracts
     
  14. chris5533

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    Someone alert me when dimitri Patterson signs his vet minimum contract
     
  15. FlaJet

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    The Idzik crowd will just love this signing. Cheap, off another teams' garbage dump, and a injury prone journeymen . If it keeps going like this it's going to be a very long painful season.
     
  16. chris5533

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    He's a dream come true for the believers.
     
  17. FlaJet

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    If they made efforts than the results indicate the FO to date has been a total failure with the exception of Decker and I don't think other teams actively pursued him.
     
  18. chris5533

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    I like the decker signing but he scares me. His numbers skyrocketed with peyton. I think he's one of the best number 2 receivers, I don't think he's a 1.
     
  19. chris5533

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    Jacoby ford is there also... Maybe the 2 of the will agree to split the vet minimum. Turning out to be a special day. Lol
     
  20. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Would it be less scary if his numbers didn't skyrocket with Peyton?
     

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