DeSean Jackson Signs with Redskins

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Trade a 3rd round pick for DeSean Jackson?

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  1. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    He doesn't say it's a guess he "breaks" it as if it is legitimate news. Most of the time he is wrong, occasionally, especially with the more obvious ones, he guesses right. People are dumb enough to continue following his twitter but whatever.
     
  2. NYJets17

    NYJets17 Well-Known Member

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    i will when i see the contract he signs.
     
  3. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Bringing DeSean Jackson into a young clubhouse is definitely a gut check situation. If you believe that Rex is a fairly loose coach in terms of discipline and structure it becomes a gut-wrenching check.

    I will totally understand if the Jets just decide that DeSean Jackson is not a fit on this team. They're going to be VERY young this year. Like one of the 4 youngest teams in the NFL. All it takes is one guy who the young guys look up to who dances to the beat of his own drummer and you can have problems.
     
  4. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    exactly how will that indicte they didn't sign him for character reasons?
     
  5. NYJets17

    NYJets17 Well-Known Member

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    because if he signs a contract that should have been given to him by the Jets, it means we didn't sign him because Idzik is a clown.
     
  6. soxxx

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    I think Desean will pass the background check, unless there is more information, the report today does not justify him not deserving a job in the NFL.
     
  7. jonnyd

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    SMH..........................................
     
  8. Charlie Kelly

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    Yeah this has been proven incorrect like 100 times and a small and uneducated group of dopes keep trying to say it. You don't have any idea what the hell you are talking about and I'm not surprised that moron liked your post
     
  9. McBayne

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    i feel like the team has done 'ok' with players that have been flagged for off-field stuff or deemed clubhouse cancers with Rex at the helm. Cro's first contract was for child support, Plax and Holmes were not nearly as caustic as previously deemed. The only player that completely disrupted the lockerroom was the good natured & competitive QB that never saw the field since he sucked. Basically the exact opposite of DJax.

    I like to think that Desean would lean towards NYJ to rejoin Vick & Marty and for the PR opportunities and crap that come w/ playing for a big market team. Hopefully NYJ could get away with giving Desean $X over 2 years when other team are offering $2X over 4. I don't think Idzik is afraid to shoot the lock off the wallet like some people - I think he's afraid of contracts that could be albatrosses down the road, and frankly, I'd be a bit unsettled if NYJ offered him something over 3 years in length.
     
  10. soxxx

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    And honestly what I learned today above all is that some people in the media have completely lost touch with reality. People are acting like being friends with a gang member is a crime, I mean what in the world? and why did this come now? why did it take this story to get all these reactions? I mean wake up, who do all these players hang out with? rappers, well who do all these rappers hang out with? I mean seriously....and where did a lot of NFL players grow up in? poverty areas, where is gang activity highest? poverty areas. I hate to break it to you but in some of these schools it would be harder to find someone who wasnt in a gang, and the ones that were in a gang, the ones that these players might have been friends with and are still friends with, guess what? time caught up and they might have joined a gang to. And as far as security, who do you think these high profile players are paying for security to follow them 24/7? the guy who never got in a fight in his life? wake up....

    So as far as today goes, if the story today is the only story on Desean, I dont see any reason why the Jets should be deterred from signing him.
     
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  11. Animosity

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    Has Vick been in trouble since he got out of jail 5 years ago!?
     
  12. DoubleDecker87

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    Idc if all you you've done the last 30 years was be a ball boy you better believe you picked up some football knowledge along the way. Anyone saying Idzik is a glorified accountant and knows nothing about evaluating football players must be on some type of crack.
     
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  13. NJBeliever

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    Exactly. And the sudden emergence of the story out of nowhere gives the Eagles even less credibility. Taking a photo with a guy who has a murder rap, while unfortunate, does not make DJax the new Aaron Hernandez. The comparison is ludicrous and caters to the most pernicious of racial stereotypes.

    Hernandez was in trouble with the law in high school and in college. He was linked to shootings in college and shattered a guy's eardrum. He failed drug tests. He has numerous pics of himself banging for everyone to see. He threatened the life of a teammate. DJax has had zero incidents in college or the pros.

    The a Eagles have shown no class in tarnishing this guy with zero substantive evidence.

    None of this will stop him from getting a huge contract though.
     
  14. NJBeliever

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    Exactly.
     
  15. NJBeliever

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    Vick paid a guy to hack a cow in the base of its neck, cut it's head off, skin it and then grind into pulp so he could eat it.


    Oh my bad that's what I did the other night when I enjoyed my burger.
     
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  16. Charlie Kelly

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    Man there's like 5 posters on this forum that are intent on making topics worthless to read. They are obvious about it too
     
  17. soxxx

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    Its really laughable, we hear how Manziel is hanging out with Drake a lot, well guess who Drake is friends with:

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    I guess everyone that hangs out with lil wayne should be cut to because he is a convicted felon that is part of a gang. Seriously, who do you think guys like Drake hang out with? So should Manziel be put on blast to? Again its not that big of a deal unless Desean himself was actually participating in this activity.
     
  18. Charlie Kelly

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    I agree with this post against my better judgment but I'm still not gonna like it
     
  19. Jets Esq.

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    Yeah.. considering that nobody wanted his $10m contract in a trade (and you have to assume they'd have taken even a 7th rather than cut him, if that offer was on the table) I don't know that there will be a huge bidding war for him. Lots of teams have already pretty much depleted their war chests re-signing their guys and picking up some free agents, too. So in order to clear enough cap space to sign Jackson to a big deal, they'd have to restructure some other guys, and/or make a long-term commitment to Jackson by paying his first year mostly with a signing bonus. That would be pretty transparently stupid since he was just cut for non-football reasons.

    My guess would be that the Jets will be somewhat interested, but definitely not in an immediate long-term contract. If a team out there offers him a long term $8m or $9m/year deal, he won't take that. He wants Wallace money, which nobody will give him now. In a long-term contract situation, where he would be essentially uncuttable for the initial 2 years of the contract, we would end up regretting it because he would slack off and demand more money, et ceterea. With the safety and stability of lots of guaranteed money, I could see it being another Holmes type situation. Since Jackson is not an Idzik type guy and is not the type of personality we want for the long-term, I think the 1-year deal makes the most sense for the Jets. It also probably makes the most sense for DeSean, because the only time he will get a big contract is at the very beginning of free agency, and it's too late now. He also needs to sort of prove himself again after being cut.

    The Jets could end up doing a 1-year deal where they'll offer him $9m/year (including a roster bonus for every single game, meaning he will not really get paid if he's hurt or has to be benched) for just 1 year and leave it at that. Get a big boost to the offense this year, and when someone else takes him in 2015, we'll get a nice 3rd round comp pick if they give him a big contract. That 3rd round pick + DeSean for 1 year is easily worth $9m, but you do take a risk with potential off-the-field stuff. Since he'll be in prove-it mode, he would likely be on relatively good behavior. There's no need to make a long-term decision on him, and if somehow another team is willing to give him a long-term deal right now, then we just let him go there.

    The other thing about taking him for a year would be that we'd have much more latitude to take a 1st round worthy man-to-man cornerback if he fell to us in the draft. With Jackson, Decker, Kerley (slot), and Nelson/Hill/PleaseNotClydeGates as the wideouts, that would actually be an strong group with multiple weapons to contend with. Plus, Jackson could be used in the return game, which would be very helpful. If we ended up taking a top-end wideout in the draft, then we wouldn't be putting all the pressure on him as a rookie because we'd have DeSean, Decker, and Kerley as well. If we end up taking a CB, we can do it without feeling like we are sabotaging the offense this year, and just take one of the second round wideouts. Or the Ebron guy in the first round if he's still there.

    I think something like this could work out for the Jets, but there are also a lot of downsides. I don't think a non-gang member would be flashing gang signs in photos and on TV. I'm not sure how serious he is in terms of the gang life, and that's an important thing to consider. You absolutely don't want someone potentially getting anyone on the team (or anyone period) into a life-threatening situation, although that never happened in his 6 years with the Eagles. We don't know if Chip Kelly knows some devastating terrible thing that Jackson did or whatever; or if it's basically just a personality clash (in which case, we can easily deal with that for 1 year since he would be on his best behavior while trying to earn a big contract.) It's possible that he could create a lot of problems in the locker room, but Michael Vick could conceivably be something of a mentor for him since they are friends. Vick could also encourage him to come to the Jets.

    With some question marks in the secondary (I do believe Milliner will be good, but it's far from a shoo-in; and I'm still not sure who the other corner will be), having Jackson could help take pressure off of the defense by helping the team score more and have longer drives. If the defense ends up being the same as last year, but the offense is hugely improved, we'll be a playoff team. If the secondary is significantly better and the passing game is hugely improved (as it will be if we added Jackson + the draft,) we could seriously contend for the AFC East title.

    So, although my initial feelings were that the Jets shouldn't go after him, I think that right now it's what we should do (assuming we can get that 1-year deal.) I definitely believe we made the right move in not giving, say, DRC a big long-term contract. That's because I don't know that he was really a really game-changer. But DeSean Jackson is a game-changer. If we're going to spend some money, you can feel good spending it on a guy you know will be a playmaker. The upside is huge and the risks are manageable. So even though Jackson is not an Idzik guy, I could see this as an Idzik move.
     
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  20. soxxx

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    The thing that interests me about Jackson, is that if we do sign him, we can go from one of the worst offenses to possibly the best offense Rex will ever have had. Thats pretty huge for a defensive guy.
     

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