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  1. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Alright. So you're saying it's completely unreasonable to put guys who are figuratively in party suits back into an inconsequential game you NEED TO WIN.

    Got it. Thanks.
     
  2. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Dude, you cannot be that thick.

    You're just trolling now, I get it.

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  3. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    If it's trolling to point out how ridiculous your argument is then I am guilty as charged.
     
  4. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    I am amazed, because I've read some of your other stuff and you usually (not always) seem to be pretty perceptive.

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  5. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    You're talking out both sides of your mouth in this case and cannot explain it so you revert to saying silly things like I'm trolling. You're frustrated when I regurgitate your message and I understand why. What you're saying makes no sense, so it's frustrating when someone repeats it.

    You can't have it both ways. You're trying to deflect your inability to explain yourself in a logical manor as me not understanding or trolling. Just stop. You sound silly.
     
  6. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Again, you have no ability to even understand what I am saying--it's readily apparent that you just can't comprehend the concept.

    I have not once spoken out of both sides of my mouth nor contradicted anything I've said. Not once. I haven't used any lawyerly tricks or obfuscation.

    You simply do not understand what I am saying.

    So I'll say it again, I can explain it to you.

    But I can't understand it for you too.

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  7. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I think maybe the problem is you don't even understand what you're saying. Maybe go crack open one of those Omegang brews and relax your emotions then re-read what you've written. You're a smart guy I'm sure you'll see the error in your ways.
     
  8. JStokes

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    Nope, gave up beer for Lent, but am sitting here enjoying a nice Malbec and it still makes complete sense to me.

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  9. Acad23

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    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    How come when the Giants release a player that was a contributor at times and a detriment at times the press is all about "this was a move that had to be done", "the Giants made the move they needed to make", " the team is bigger than the player", etc? Then when the Jets do the same thing the media spends column inch after column inch on how the move was wrong, the Jets suck, the team has no clue, etc?
     
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    It's a pretty even-handed article...not much to quibble with.



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    Mark Sanchez disappointed with his performances throughout his five seasons with the New York Jets.

    Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20140322/new-york-jets-release-mark-sanchez/#ixzz2x1KTB5Vw
    With release, Mark Sanchez's sad Jets saga comes to a close
    By Greg Bishop, SI.com

    The New York Jets released Mark Sanchez late on Friday, almost two weeks into free agency, after most every team in need of quarterbacks had already signed or traded for one. They released him soon after Oakland acquired Matt Schaub, after the Texans signed Ryan Fitzpatrick, at the same time the Jets themselves inked Michael Vick.

    How appropriate. Even at the end, the Jets did little to help Sanchez, once the face of their franchise known as Sanchize, later the Buttfumble of so many NFL jokes.

    It's not that that Jets wanted Sanchez to fail. It's just that it sometimes seemed that way.

    I covered the Jets back in the beginning, back in 2009 when Gang Green traded for the fifth pick in the draft. They selected Sanchez, signed him to richest contract in team history and gingerly placed him into a locker room filled with veterans, alongside Thomas Jones and Alan Faneca and Tony Richardson and Jerricho Cotchery.

    Sanchez did not regress in recent seasons so much as he struggled throughout. He threw 20 interceptions as a rookie. His completion percentage never climbed above 56.7. His worst performances were epic disasters, blunder clinics, turnover parades.

    What Sanchez proved in his first two seasons was that in the right offense, surrounded by the right players, backed by a stout defense, he could win games. Or at least not lose too many them. He took the Jets to the AFC Championship game in his first two seasons. He beat Peyton Manning in the playoffs.

    Coach Rex Ryan loved the story about how the Jets interviewed Sanchez in Los Angeles and how after dinner they said goodbye and Sanchez hopped on a motorcycle -- a joke that showed his moxie, his charm. Those were the days. Ryan tattooed a picture of his wife on his right arm, clad in only a Sanchez No. 6 Jets' jersey, linked by ink then to his franchise star.

    The rest of the Sanchez-Jets era unfolded in comical failure. Sanchez proved a mediocre quarterback at times, a bad quarterback at others. But the thread that connects 2011 to 2014 is that the Jets did not help Sanchez, did not give him even the slightest chance to succeed. They made an average quarterback worse.

    At first, the Jets coddled Sanchez. They gave him a personal assistant during his rookie season and forbade one-on-one interviews. They delivered criticism lightly. They limited both the playbook and his development.

    The talent purge came next. Gone were some of the linemen who protected Sanchez, the backs he handed off to, the experience he relied on. He needed to win games instead of not lose them. The Jets signed Santonio Holmes to a massive contract, but instead of a No. 1 receiver, they got a No. 1 headache. They used most of their top draft picks on defensive players. They tried to land Manning. They did land Tim Tebow and the circus that accompanied him to New York.

    So much of that made so little sense. Sanchez was one of the Jets' least mature, most sensitive players, and to boost his confidence they let key offensive players walk and chased after other quarterbacks. If the thought was that competition would make Sanchez better, would force him to raise his play, it had the opposite effect. Besides, who was he supposed to throw to?

    The rest of the Sanchez era played out like a serial drama: the illicit hotdog consumed on the sideline, the 17-year-old he allegedly dated, the GQ cover, the TMZ interviews and finally, sadly, infamously, that Thanksgiving night in 2012 when Sanchez ran smack into his lineman's butt and fumbled against the Patriots, a play that will live forever on NFL blooper reels.

    Late Friday, I sent a text message to my buddy Joe, the biggest Jets fan I know. What did he make of Sanchez's tenure? "Overall it sums up the history of being a Jets fan," he wrote back. "The second, and I mean the very second, you buy in, the rug gets pulled out from under you."

    Now, Sanchez is looking for work. The Jets are still looking for their first Super Bowl quarterback since Joe Freaking Namath, and the next candidates are Vick and Geno Smith. Ryan should be looking for another tattoo to cover up the other old one.

    All of this of course is the most Jets-like development ever. (Insert Buttfumble joke here.)
     
  15. JStokes

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    I agree. I think there is enough here for any Sanchez supporter to agree with and to deny as there is enough for every Sanchez "detractor" to agree with and to deny.

    At least the reasonable ones on both sides of the fence.

    The outliers not so much.

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    We need a Sanchez forum just like we used to have for Tebow and all the Tebow lovers. The Sanchez nut huggers can then go express their man love for the guy over there and leave the real Jets talk in this forum.
     
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  17. FlaJet

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    Equally there should be an Idzik forum for the Idzik nut huggers.

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  18. Tballlz63

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    How Mark was released is just fair game in the business world of the NFL. It's just the way that these things work, he was still able to sign with a team so he's fine.

    The only thing I can really say the Jets did to screw him over was putting him in the Snoopy Bowl behind a second and third string o line. That was fucked up, and it lost him a year of football. I'm glad we had Geno back there learning on the job, but with his footwork issues and learning the new offense out would have been better for him and the Jets if he was able to come in around week 4 rather than start right away.

    I don't know how last year would've played out if Mark started the season. Maybe he would've played well and we never see Geno, but he probably would've been replaced at some point based on his history of not having any weapons To throw to, and not having a dominant rushing attack.

    But him getting released when he did, that's just business on the NFL. Every player goes through it at one point or another in their career.
     
  19. Frenbar

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    So, in their business relationship, the Jets screwed Sanchez over in every way except giving him tens of millions of dollars. Any time you want to sign a contract with me, and screw me over in every way besides giving me ten million dollars, I'm ready.
     
  20. FlaJet

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    He did say every way beside money which is the business side. Certainly was never worth the money. Would you turn it down it it was given to you especially if U didn't even ask for it? The Jets did what they thought was a wise business decision (it was). In the process Sanchez got screwed.
     

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