Our plan at CB….

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  1. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Yeahreally. That's why you bring in more db's on passing downs. Heh!

    As for LB, Pace is obviously back on a one year deal, and i thought that was a good move. He had a pretty good season last year. He will most likely be gone next off season. Coples is something of a question mark, but in reality he is often playing as a down lineman, and the experiment with him as a tweener will continue before conclusions can be firmly reached about him.

    Barnes? I thought he didn't play hardly at all. Why talk about him in pass coverage?

    The real medium term concern is Harris. Ftr I've been reluctant to call him a core player equivalent to Mangold, Ferguson and when they were still here Revis and Cromartie. I think he's overpaid. But he had a pretty good year last year, after a pretty bad one, so I hope he plays equally well this coming year.

    But along with Mangold and Ferguson he will begin declining soon enough, unfortunately, and hte Jets will have to make a big move to replace him. I don't see Davis taking over his role, unfortunately.

    The Jets LB's are not a great group, but this off season I don't see them as a priority in the draft. Two starters minimum will have to be added, one before 2015, one before 2016, but that's a bit off.
     
  2. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    Since we're rebuilding this is a good chance for guys like Wilson, Walls, Lankster, and Dowling to step up. More than likely they'll be competing for the number 2 CB spot. I'm fine with that, maybe they draft a guy in the mid to late rounds. I believe that Milliner will continue to get better and he'll have a sold sophomore campaign. He'll have his growing pains still, but he won't be nearly as bad as he was last year. I don't think we're that bad at the corner position at all.
     
  3. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Ftr I think the CS will coach Milliner up, and I am reasonably hopeful about him. That being the case I would feel far better about him at the #2 slot this coming season. I don't think it is a good experience getting burned too often by the other team's number one wideout, which would be a huge risk if he's left in single coverage.

    And if the Jets can no longer play man coverage, the LB's will get torched.
     
  4. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    He was a top 10 pick entering his second year. Now is the time for him to have an increased role. Last year towards the end of the season he was guarding the likes of Josh Gordon, and Mike Wallace and was doing a good job. I think he'll be fine but I do understand your concerns.
     
  5. jilozzo

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    reasonable opinion - but they better make sure the front seven is at the 85 bears level.
     
  6. rsc1589

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    Nothing else to it, we missed in FA. I am a Clemson Alum. I would like us to nab Bashaud Breeland in rd 2. However, I would not like us to see a CB in rd 1 unless Gilbert falls (which wont happen). Too bad...DRC would of been a sound CB. We can still bring back Cro which would get us by for 1 more yr.
     
  7. Big Blocker

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    I would say not getting benched is an increased role, so let's see if he can do that in the #2 slot before hanging him out to dry with the best receivers in the league.
     
  8. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    And put who in the #1?
     
  9. The 1985er

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    This isn't "hanging him out to dry" though. He was drafted fairly high and it makes sense to transition him into that number 1 CB role. I'd be more worried if he never had that good stretch to end the season. But that gives me confidence that he'll be fine.
     
  10. OverloadBlitz

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    Yeah he played very well the last few games and looked confident, I think he's ready for the starting spot especially with another training camp under his belt.
     
  11. Big Blocker

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    I was talking that is what should have been done, not managing your FA with a load of money "planning" on using Milliner as the #1 Cb and not sign anyone else.
     
  12. Big Blocker

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    I am going off his season long performance last year rather than his being ninth pick in the draft, which you seem to be hanging your hat on. Despite improving over the last few games, i don't know anyone but a total Jet homer who would call Milliner a #1 Cb level of quality.
     
  13. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Fixed that for you.

    Hey if Rex is on board with this concept, I might be, too. Word is Rex is not on board with it.
     
  14. BacktoQueens

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    i think we should absolutely bring back Cro at this time.
    As for the draft, go BPA, and certainly OT and CB are in the mix for high consideration. IMO, 2 most important positions in football outside of QB. If you are weak in either position, opposing teams will exploit it all day. So if we are really building for the future, we need more permanent solutions at those positions.
     
  15. The 1985er

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    Which brings us full circle to another debate we were having. We are rebuilding. It makes sense to put him in that role. If we had bigger expectations then Milliner would be a nickleback right now.
     
  16. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Milliner would get plenty of experience starting in the #2 spot. In fact probably more than if he were #1 and the #2 is some scrub, since that Cb will get all the attention.

    Methinks you are merely excusing inaction by the FO.
     
  17. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    They just resigned Willie Colon, signed Decker, and Giacomini, Douzable, Cumberland, Folk etc.

    Milliner was drafted in the top 10 he was brought in to be our number 1 CB. We're rebuilding so let him get his experience as the number 1 CB.
     
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    Yep, im hearing more and more about a trade for Joseph. Good stats, but does Idzik do the trade?
     
  20. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Joseph is a better CB than anybody who was on the market this year aside from Revis and he has cap numbers of $7.5M this year and $8.5M next year. He's 30 years old in April and probably will not cost the Jets much if the new head coach in Houston has decided to part ways. He has a much bigger cap number for the Texans. They'd save $3.75M by trading him. He'd be off the books for 2015.

    This is the kind of guy where if you could get him for a 5th round pick you probably want to make the trade, especially with all the compensation picks coming.

    He got very upset with the Texans fans when they cheered the Schaub injury and dropped an f-bomb in the media at the end of the game. That's not an attitude problem, it's having your teammate's back. It might be part of the impetus for a trade though.
     
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