I honestly dont know. Could go either way. Idzik gave Rex another year but Im not sure how he feels about him in the long term.
Breaking the bank and overpaying is an entirely distinct argument from paying market price for good value. After seeing Verner a lot last year, his price tag of $6.5mil this year is good value for him. After seeing Peanut Tillman re-up for $3.5mil for one year I call that good value because the guy's a ballhawk extraordinaire. Some of the other FA signings were overpaid however if they produce next year then that's good value as well. It all depends on what type of return you get on your investment. Now if you don't even want to be in the FA game and think you can pass on everyone and just go cheap and "rebuild" that's an entirely different argument. Chances are much greater that if you go with guys who haven't proven they are good players in this league that they have a much higher likelihood of contributing nothing. So you get little to no value for these players even if they come a lot cheaper. This is where these two separate arguments converge. Regardless of which camp you fall into, isn't the ultimate goal of building the team to win and win consistently? If so, then sometimes you have to be in the game of paying certain "good value" players in order to win the games on the field. All this other crap about every other team is wrong and the guys they signed aren't worth it is total BS. The Jets do not know something that the other 31 teams do not. If anything, it's quite the contrary and you have a team with tons of holes and 3 straight non playoff seasons to back this up.
I want them to make the playoffs, win the division, win Super Bowls. That is accomplished by the ability to keep your existing players, finding free agent talent that is a long term solution at value, and in the rare instance spending whatever it takes for that key superstar when you are only one player away that gets you over teh hump into championship contender territory. if you lock up B level players at the highest possible B level salary you hinder the flexibility needed to accomplish those three elements above IMO. Unless the free agent is a super star worth super star money, you have to get value out of free agents. desperate teams overpay players. it doesn't mean that player isn't good or can't improve you in the short-term, just that it is possible to get B level players at low B value, and that is the preferred strategy IMO. Maybe Idzik thinks the players that were available were over-priced and not worth signing, not because they couldn't help the team immediately but because the long-term value of having that cap space is more valuable than the short-term impact of those players.
So maybe Rex is using this as a weapon against Idzik. Trying to show Woody that the new GM is indecisive and was beaten out for a player Rex wanted by the Giants. Well, someone was going to get DRC. He might have chosen the Giants for money or maybe even because he liked their org better. One of his early career mentors when with the Cardinals is Antoine Rolle. So it could have been a big factor. If Rex is going to be a team player and give Idzik a chance to be successful he has to tone it down. And support Idzik even if he's unhappy about the D side so far in free agency. Rex shouldn't be saying or leaking anything. And sometimes the way he operates is by having others do the dirty work for him. Rex didn't say it but someone else did.
Tannenbaum also had two championship games in a row or he would have been gone sooner. He went from that to a car full of clowns in two years and out the door the next. Owners don't like to see their teams portrayed that way.
Exactly... He turned the team into a joke so the owner fired him. That has nothing to do with the NY media. Tannenbaums firing is his own fault. Idzik rebuilding a team is not the same as the media nonsense that was here for years under Tannenbaum.
Lol Idk what he expects Rex to do with the rosters he keeps setting him up with.. Like he setting him up for failure.. Even though he extended em
Its def starting to look that way but if we had a really bad season this year like 2-14 or 4-14 or even 6-10 it wouldn't surprise me to see both of them fired.Especially since Idzik put himself in this position in free agency he will get bulk of blame if things don't pan out with the draft,I don't think he realizes the pressure of being a GM in NY with the media and fans,but now that he was on the back page the other day he may start to feel the heat
I think the Giants vastly improved their team in FA, without sacrificing their future. They let go of dead weight like Tuck and Nicks. Lost Joseph as well, which hurts, but he simply got too big an offer for them to match. They upgraded their roster at their weakest spots.....secondary, linebackers, oline and special teams. DRC, Thurmond, Demps, Beason, McClain, Schwartz, Walton, Holliday only potential risk there is DRC, with 15M guaranteed, but they can potentially walk away from that in 2 years. the rest can be solid role players at positions of need, none of which will 'break the bank', or cause them to not draft BPA. That is a nice balance of improving the present while keeping an eye on the future. I can't stand the team, but i expect they will be back in the playoff hunt this year. That is what I was looking for from the Jets..
LOL sounds like the same logic people use to believe in god. "Oh yeah, I know that Tsunami just killed 100,000 innocent people, including your whole family, but god has a plan! I swear! 1 billion starving worldwide? It's all part of the plan"
Yeah, pretty much every GM gets a few years, it's accepted that reshaping a roster takes at least 2 - 3 years. If the team regresses this year, then Rex will be fired. Then the new HC would get 2 - 3 years to prove himself, and at that point Idzik's job would be on the line. Part of the reason that teams don't fire GMs as readily is that you can't keep changing the direction of the team all the time, since it takes years to reshape a roster through the draft and selective free agent signings and trades. You can plug in a new coaching system much more easily, since you can replace all of the coaches in just a few months.
No. Rex has at least 2 years, otherwise Idzik is not being fair to him. I don't see how they can give him a worse product to put on the field for the 2nd year in a row and expect him to do any better than 8-8. Now I know we're still recovering from the overpay era, but how many years do we have to tank before we actually make any moves in FA? In just 2 off seasons, our talent in the secondary has gone from top of the league to one of the worst and its the staple to the RR D. Rex can try to over achieve again, but there's only so much you can do. Idzik isn't giving him anything to work with. They could bring in an over the hill Ed Reed & Champ Bailey, but is that really a solution? Milliner as #1 and Walls as #2 isn't scaring anybody.
There's a Psychological/Emotional aspect to building a team, or choosing a team to rout for. Fans are far more invested in players that are home grown, drafted, developed, and become stars than they are mercenary FAs who's last name they can't even spell correctly (take 'Farve' for example). I wish someone would do a study but I'm sure teams with the most homegrown talent base (take Saettle) have the most invested/passionate fan base versus teams that try to short circuit the process by signing every top FA they can sign year in and year out. When we lost Revis there was outrage (twice), but I don't recall the outrage when we 'lost' Favre to the Vikings. Why is that? Because Revis was OURS, we found him first and because Favre was just a loaner. Owners, GMs, Coaches, and Fans become far more invested in teams that are home grown.
Not to mention giving Sanchez a fat raise when he didn't need to give Sanchez a new deal. the five things that hung Tanny, In no particular order of importance. The mark Sanchez extension. The Tebow Fiasco. The Cap mess Trading away too many draft picks (this also relates to the cap mess as well). The Gholston pick and poor drafts in general.
My biggest issue with Idzik is this: He's a "build through the draft guy" but neither he nor his HC has any experience doing so, and Rex is clearly a poor evaluator of college talent (outside of DL). And I absolutely loathed his first draft, which featured his top three pics two of which are awful players and the third of which was a position we didn't need at all. He basically threw away last years draft, but we are supposed to believe a guy who had nothing to do with personnel in Seattle is going to suddenly figure it out here?
The interesting thing to me is who blinks first, the Texans or Idzik....I don't think Idzik will cut Sanchez until the Texans either cut or trade Schaub.....
Is this the same dead weight Nick that some here were pissed we did not get? I do agree with your post BTW.
