Good to see: @Rich Cimini Jets are interested in re-signing G Willie Colon, per source. Others teams showing interest. Could have a deal in a few days. #nyj
one thing we must all remember is that this won't be the teams only opportunity to build partially through free agency. Idzik isn't putting all of his stock on this 2014 FA class, there were players he would have liked to have aboard, he even got a couple of them, but he wasn't all in on them for the sake of spending the money we have this year. Why? because this isn't his only chance to do so, if he's not sure about a player in the long run or feels they aren't worth a certain amount he shouldn't make major moves to acquire them just because they top some free agent list somewhere or fans want them after hearing of them for the first time a month ago. Its a much longer game the jets are playing, there are players to sign soon, perhaps free agents more worth the time and money next year or even later this year as well. we can't just put all our chips into this one week and act as if this is the be all end all for being contenders, nor should the powers that be be so insecure about their franchise that they try to sign anybody that sounds good just because they can. 2014 free agency is not all there is folks, the capability of signing guys that sound good does not preclude a plan to only do so if its worth it in the long term or because its cap sensible. We shouldn't attempt a passive aggressive tittle run with players we overpaid for just because they sounded good in march. I'm glad Idzik has his line sin the sand, and while he'll have to move them eventually theres no rush to do so now, lets stop acting as if the only time to improve the team through Free Agency is through spending on players right NOW. Leave that for a team about to lose their HOF QB soon who's contending stautus might ACTUALLY come down to being just this year.
What about my post is wrong? You take a CB 9th overall he better be an elite player. And he selected Geno, who is god awful, to be his franchise QB. Unless Geno can climb into some respectable QB rating next season, how the fuck can you continue to follow the plan of a guy whose first critical moves have failed?
You guys think Rex could get an 11-12 kind of year out of Carlos Rogers? I think there's something left especially for real cheap.
It is the business, exactly! Cutting Cro might be disloyal or immoral (if you wish), but it's within constrains of a business contract. In contrast, Revis holdout is a breach of business contract. You hired a painter and paid 2/3 upfront and then the guy refuses to finish the job -- he breached the contract. If you guaranteed him one job and said you might keep him for another one, but changed your mind for the 2nd job -- that's your business division.
Milliner will prove to be a fine pick at worst and we already know what a great pick Sheldon is. I'm about the biggest Geno hater on here but I'm not calling for the GM to fired because of a 2nd rounder.
You hired a painter and paid 2/3 up front but he thinks he did SUCH a good job, he refuses to finish it. That's Darrelle
Come to think if it I think cutting Cro gives us a comp pick wether he comes or not too. could be wrong though...
No. If the painter said he wanted more money to finish because the first half looked so great that would be Revis.
I read somewhere that we signed CB Johnny Patrick from the Chargers. The guy was a former 3rd round pick, but I don't know anything else about him...
Practice squad kind of player, he has upside but has done absolutely nothing on the football field mainly just a camp body really for us.
man...if only stephen hill can break out. that will change this team drastically. Him and decker on the outside is alotta height with kerley getting busy in the slot, just would need a TE from this point.. but he key words are "if only.." *sighs*
While I agree with your first statement, I think there's room for concern. Yes, Idzik deserves a chance to let his plan play out, but that doesn't mean we should just bury our heads in the sand for 2 years. I think some are upset that we didn't go on a wild spending spree. I'm not. I never expected that, and am glad he didn't. That said, there were moves he could have made, and supposedly did try to make and lost (Asamoah and Davis). Asamoah was signed for what I think is a reasonable amount and would have helped solidify our OL and giving it a lot more flexibility and depth as well as a solid starter. He's only 25. It appears as if Davis played us. If so, that's a concern that Idzik isn't a very shrewd negotiator. I wasn't in favor of paying Davis even that much, much less more, but I'm a firm believer in planning. By that I mean that before the Jets released Cro, imo they should have had at least two options in place. One, is that they had a firm agreement with Davis (or Verner or whomever they wanted, if they had someone definitely in mind) in place, and all that remained was his signature on the contract. Two, they should have had a Plan B in place in case something went awry. Perhaps they should have at least gone through the motions of negotiating with Cro and his agents and shown him some respect. Perhaps they should have had plans for another CB to come in, and then canceled them if everything worked out. There is no evidence that there was a plan B in place. IMO due diligence on FAs should have been done before the signing period began, not after. Those two things concern me. Also of concern is the seeming fact (If Rappaport was accurate) that Idzik refused to negotiate with DRC's agents, and then rushed in at the last second with a much bigger deal after DRC had already agreed to sign with the Giants. That sounds like being unnecessarily a hard nose and stubborn, and then a panic move. He's a rookie and going to make some mistakes, but that doesn't mean we should ignore them. Also of concern is the fact that Idzik's mantra of competition and addressing needs in FA so one can go bpa in the draft seems to be in conflict with his actions thus far in FA. IMO there aren't a lot of FAs who can help the Jets even for a season or two, much less a longer period of time. They wouldn't improve competition, and it's hard to see many of them being legitimate starting candidates. All of that said, there are a few players out there that could still help the team. Additional players could be cut between now and the draft, following the draft, and following training camp that can help the team. We do have 12 draft picks. There is definitely room for hope and optimism. I think the thing that concerns some and me as well is that this offseason is key for the next 5-10 years of the franchise...do well, and the team will be set up to make a nice run. Screw the pooch, and it will be more of the mediocre same. This makes people antsy and nervous. They see little happening to address our needs and it scares them and pisses them off. We've all seen too much incompetence from the Jets over the years and have little or no patience for any more. It scares me less, because as I said earlier, I wasn't expecting big things, but I was expecting more positive moves than what we've seen. I was hoping to see one of Asamoah, Schwartz or Beadles signed at OG. I'm willing to hang in there and give Idzik time to implement his plan, but I want to see real progress, smart moves, and see him learn from mistakes.
Cutting a player who is still under contract is technically a breach of contract too. But the NFL is set up in a way that allows teams to cut players before their contracts expire. It's not against the rules for a player to holdout. It can't be business when it benefits the team but bad when a player is doing "business" for himself.
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/36721/idzik-boxes-himself-into-a-cornerback http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...ort-rex-ryan-pissed-drc-signed-with-ny-giants
