Vote: Idzik's Approach to Free Agency

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Do you believe in Idzik's approach to free agency?

  1. Yes

    131 vote(s)
    56.7%
  2. No

    32 vote(s)
    13.9%
  3. Not Sure Yet

    68 vote(s)
    29.4%
  1. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    maybe they don't give a shit that I don't have a PS4, but they are likely enjoying watching you continuously dig yourself deeper into your hole of stupidity.
     
  2. Burnz

    Burnz Well-Known Member

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    Wal-mart

    /filler
     
  3. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Lol ,you know he is 12- 14 if he is making ps4 threats and refrences.His mommy bought him one
     
  4. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    My first Jet game, my first Mets game, the first stadium I ever snuck into. I think I still have a splinter in my ass from those old wooden seats.
     
  5. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    I think your GM is doing fine, for the most part. I like more the philosophy that you get your superstars in the draft and fill multiple holes in free agency with 2nd tier, quality players for value, rather than spending a bunch on overpriced and overhyped guys like Miami, Washington, Oakland, and Tampa Bay does. I think only when you are completely devoid of talent at a position to where you need to add multiple guys do you then go for the big fish, ala Eric Decker or Mario Williams.

    Now I'm not a fan of Decker, I think that is going to be a not so great move, but to each their own. I think you are better off without Pettigrew, so it was good Detroit swooped in and signed him. He is a slow plodding TE, not an impact guy. DRC would be a very good addition. To re-build right, and not make mistakes, it needs to be a slow process of acquiring pieces, which it seems like Idzik is trying to do. You can't fix your whole roster in one or two offseasons. Stay the course and be patient.
     
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  6. pclfan

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    I like being frugal but still spending money if you get value. The prices are currently high but some guys who are good players will drop. So I'm hoping he doesn't overpay Rogers-Cro. NEP got a more reasonable deal on Browner and other than a few guys they never overpay. They even signed Brady at a bargain rate (but guaranteed the entire contract).
     
  7. Br4d

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    He's saving up to pay Mo Wilkerson, Jeremy Kerley, Quinton Coples, etc.

    The only free agents that make a huge difference are the hall of famers at QB and DL coming free in their prime to late prime and that almost never happens due to the franchise tag. Reggie White was worth every penny to the Packers, but they already had their QB and he was a first ballot hall of famer in the making at the time they signed him.

    Looking at this free agent class there was not a single player, including Darrelle Revis, that you could look at and say "signing that guy makes the team 2 games better". Even when you get an excellent DL on the market, like Mario Williams a couple of years ago, there's no guarantee that his major contributions will turn into wins.

    You build a team by finding great players in the draft and then doing everything you can to hold onto them until they have passed their prime. Signing average players to star contracts prevents you from drafting players at those positions and then makes the process of holding on to your own homegrown young stars harder.

    It's just a losing proposition and if you look at who signs the big free agents and what happens next that becomes clear over time. If you have all the pieces but one or two then signing a free agent or two to get over the top makes some sense, assuming you are not missing the QB as one of the pieces.
     
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  8. NCJetsfan

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    I agree that it's starting to become a matter of concern. There's being cautious, thoughtful, and not wanting to overpay, and just being stubborn, penurious, and perhaps afraid of making a mistake on a more expensive FA. He's basically still a rookie GM, so I can understand some of his hesitance and reluctance, but he's let a lot of younger FAs sign elsewhere for not that much that could have helped this team a lot. As much as I don't like Rex, I'm starting to hope that Rex will lose it and punch Idzik out if he doesn't unclench his fists on the pursestrings and make some quality signings. We don't have to go with the low-tier, cheap, low risk -high reward players coming off major injuries this season.
     
  9. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    One thing you're forgetting is that many players will sign for a cheaper amount with a team that has a chance to go to and win a SB. That isn't the Jets. The Jets probably will have to overpay at least a little to sign some players. I believe that's where Idzik is making some mistakes.
     
  10. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Are all you guys forgetting that there is a whole lot more wheelin' and dealin' to come heading into the draft period and getting there with deep pockets in terms of cash, cap and picks sure can't hurt.
     
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  11. nycztonee

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    Feels just like when you strike out on all FAs in Madden from low balling players, only to simply quit and reload from last saved point to do it over again.

    Except, you can't do it over again.
     
  12. Barcs

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    Now I want to change my vote to NO. I am going to list below all of Idzik's perceived failures for this year.

    1. Going into full rebuild mode when the team was 8-8 and one dropped pass away from playoffs
    2. Cutting Cromartie without even attempting to restructure or having a backup plan in place
    3. Letting DRC go to the Giants, thus failing to put Rex Ryan in a good position to do what he does best and succeed
    4. Failing to resign Austin Howard, one of our top players on offense.
    5. Sitting back as the Patriots improve their team big time while doing nothing to make us competitive with them, including not even contacting Revis after trading him to the Bucs and watching him go to our arch rival. Who would have ever thought the Patriots would have a much better secondary than us this year? That used to be the one advantage we had on them.

    And again, I say perceived because that's how many folks will think, I don't necessarily agree with all of it, but they hold merit at this point in time. I'm not saying he's in the wrong for every one, there is still much to play out. I know Idzik likes to build via draft, but you have to fill some needs through FA. Otherwise he's essentially saying that he's already given up on this season. Not a good way to gain fan support. They'd better be taking Antonio Cromartie out for thousand dollar steaks tonight. That's all I know. After a healthy Cro, the talent level of remaining CBs on the market falls off a cliff. Does he really want Rex to fail?

    I guess we all shouldn't be surprised next season when Wilkerson walks and gets signed by the Dolphins because Idzik won't want to pay him.
     
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  13. chris5533

    chris5533 Well-Known Member

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    Perfectly said. This is a goddam joke. This guy is a moron
     
  14. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Welp, this should shortly become the fire Idzik thread.
     
  15. CBG

    CBG Well-Known Member

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    I still give the guy an incomplete but,,,,,,,,,,,,,I am leaning towards " no "
     
  16. Unhappyjetsfan

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    Who cares if we make the playoffs? We're not winning the Super Bowl until we get a QB - and there's no indication we have one right now.

    How do you know he didn't attempt to restructure?

    Does every cornerback on the roster have to be a first round draft pick before Ryan is "in a good position" - because if so, no coach in the league is "in a good position ... to succeed".

    The guy we signed to replace him (who I know nothing about) was rated higher than Howard in several "Top FA Tackle" lists ... and he signed for less money.


    If Fatfork gets cut, the Patriots might not have improved at all this offseason. Also, Revis went to the Patriots, not the Dolphins.

    Not really. Just because a bunch of know-nothings get their panties in a bunch because we didn't sign every name FA available doesn't mean "they hold merit" - it just means a bunch of people who don't know anything are upset about a topic they don't know anything about.

    You're not going to build a championship contender by overpaying for average players. For example, WRs - there wasn't a single #1 WR available in free agency this year. It doesn't make any sense to sign a bunch of average players to above average contracts; particularly when you dont have a QB on the roster to throw it to them.

    Who cares about fan support? The team's been sold out since the old Meadowlands was built. The team is going to make the same amount of money if we go 12-4 or 4-12; you think Woody cares? You know what builds "fan support"? Winning a title.
     
  17. Geno007

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    I think it should be right now. I hear he does a take it or leave it approach to trying to sign players. That not good.
     
  18. chris5533

    chris5533 Well-Known Member

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    What's he doing? His goal now is to what sign champ bailey to a vet minimum so next year we have 80 mill in cap space ? You need to spend some money. He was always a cap guy, he's not a gm. So he'll just keep dealing rex shitty hands, hoping they draft well and rex can fight for 8/8 and his job again? There's a middle ground between tannenbaum and this approach. I'm sick right now. Let me guess idzick supporters will say the giants overpaid? Bullshit 15 mill in guarantees, I got news for you, we overpaid for decker. This is a joke
     
  19. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    We did not overpay for Decker, he makes around the same as Stevie Johnson and Brian Hartline.

    People need to relax, we are getting younger and faster. VLT aren't won in Free Agency. I will hold my judgement until after the draft. He has to get around 5 starters this draft.

    If he half-asses the draft, then I will not be happy not one bit.
     
  20. chris5533

    chris5533 Well-Known Member

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    What exatly is wrong about what he said?
     

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