I correctly quoted the stat that the Jets were 31st in the league in average yards per game. So if by bottom you mean 32nd, I will give you that one. But of course I said bottom tier, not at the bottom specifically. So my point stands. My point in any event was that if he can't hit 6.5 ypa and more than 200 ypg, he will remain a bottom TIER Qb. I am correct. I did not rely solely on the ypg metric. The larger point is that his play in the final four games showed an improvement in lower turnovers, but at a cost of lower ypa, and despite as much as 36 pass attempts against Cleveland, not much to show for it in total yardage.
That an comparing someone just signed in FA (where there is no transaction cost such as a trade or draft pick given in return) to someone under contract under different circumstances is comparing apples to oranges. Players who go FA take a chance on their final contract year. Not all playes want to take that risk. Apples and oranges, Dude.
Decker runs very good deep routes. Post or post corner. Geno throws a very nice deep,ball. Could be a very nice thing we see between both of them. Would love to get Edelman or jones now
I believe the point was that Decker's contract is good value for his talent, since players with similar contracts are the likes of Brian Hartline and Stevie Johnson.
Yes to Cro. He is what he is at this point, but he knows the system and we can just hope that he's over whatever was ailing him last season. Find his eventual replacement in this draft or next years...
meh. While he definitely is a improvement to the current talent pool, I'll reserve my excitement until we see what he can do without a WR like Demarius Thomas drawing coverage across the field.
It's getting to be a no choice move. Funny how just a couple of days in FA can change the whole lay of things. And of course the relevance to Decker and who the wideouts are is significant. Again and again, no Cb drafted in the first round. Use that on O, probably wideout, maybe BPA between TE and OL.
Good signing, a big need and a very good player. Not a true #1 but is a real good #2 and we need both. Decker isn't very fast but he's very quick, great route runner, good hands and is a guy who finds the end zone. Had a hall of famer throwing to him the last 2 years but let's not forget in his first full year he was pretty damn good with the legendary Tim Tebow throwing him the ball, he had 8 TD catches. Excellent signing.
That there are a lot of crappy #1's in the NFL at this point. There are also #1's working on their rookie deal who will jump up above 7.5M on their second deal. It's not true btw that no #2 should be paid higher than the lesser #1's. The best #2's are clearly more valuable than the worst #1's. Last year Santonio Holmes was our #1 WR at 7.5M a year. Would you rather have him on the roster at 7.5M this year or Decker?
Welker is not a #1 though. He's a slot receiver in a spread offense. A very good slot receiver but a slot receiver none the less.
Sure. sure. I was just saying. My God, I was just re looking these contracts. I can't believe how much some of these scrubs get paid.
Welker is not a "#1" hes a slot guy. "#1s" are guys like Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitz, Dez Bryant etc..
The structure is somewhat skewed by the huge contracts at the top. None of the WR's getting paid 8 figures is really worth that in terms of actual contribution to wins. If the top of the list was $9.5M then Eric Decker would be a $5-6M receiver. Most of the good #1's would be $7M guys. The edge wars have produced some huge contracts over the last decade but the guys earning those contracts haven't been winning rings. This is one of the huge logical disconnects in NFL front office methodology at this point. With the CB's the message has slowly been getting through as the dramatic upsurge in contracts around the Bailey/Aso/Revis continuum has begun to flatten out. The WR's are still running free though. Despite the fact that they're not winning championships in the process.
Valid point. But with the NFL rules currently favoring offense, this explains why the numbers are skewed toward WR contracts. There is a huge disconnect between tier 1 WR contracts and tier 1 CB contracts in terms of compensation, etc.
Not a fan of this move at all. Just because the jets paid him like a #1 doesn't magically transform him from a #2. Bad move unless you get Peyton Manning to throw him the ball too!
