I would not be mad (Revis Offseason Thread)

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  1. JetBlue

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    TB: Revis, no one else will pay you more than $11 mil on the market, but the Raiders will pay you $13 mil if you renegotiate and accept a trade.
    REVIS: If they will pay me $13 mil if I renegotiate as well as trade a pick, why wouldn't I just wait until you cut me, sign with them for $13 mil and help the team out by keeping their draft pick?
    TB: Uh, uhhmmm, uh......pretty please accept the trade, Darrel! Please!
     
  2. Br4d

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    Yeah, well he isn't renegotiating. The question is whether the Bucs will follow through on their threat to cut him.

    They could unilaterally restructure his salary for the year into a bonus (per a clause in the contract) and sit tight for 2014. His cap hit for this year would be $6.4M (according to sources) and $9.6M would get pushed into 2015-2018 or $2.4M a year.

    Then next year they'd have the same question only he'd have a dead money charge of $2.4M a year from 2015-2018 if they let him go.

    They could also just pay him the $16M this year and let things play out again next year.

    They do give up the 3rd rounder instead of the 4th however once they cut Revis they will have given up the 4th rounder plus Revis for no return. They might decide to hold him and see if one of the contenders loses a CB before the trade deadline. Revis would make a very tempting target for a contender at that point as a 1 year rental. Maybe worth giving up a 2nd or 3rd round pick in 2015.
     
  3. JetBlue

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    I agree that is the prudent move for TB. I stated earlier I was shocked to hear that they would cut him.

    I don't think Revis cares where he plays, so he has zero motivation to renegotiate. whatever a team is willing to pay him in a renegotiated deal they would pay him in a new contract, so he may as well get cut and sign with them and save their pick, as well as have the option to sign with any other team that may also pay that amount but aren't willing to engage in a trade for him. and if that falls through, he will be happy to play with the Bucs.
     
  4. kevmvp

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    Richard Sherman is not the best corner. He's very good, but he's #2. He gets more publicity because of the success of his team.
     
  5. JetDan

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    I am biased, because I am a big fan of Revis, and believe he was the most talented player to ever put on a Jets uniform.(Meaning a player at there respective position never dominated week after week, as much as Revis did. I would love to have him back, but don't see it happening. He has a strained relationship with Jets management, while also being money hungry. Held out when we drafted him, held out with a year left on his contract, and won't rework a deal with the Bucs. All he cares about is money and its getting kind of sad. But hey, I would still love to see him back
     
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    The logic of your post should be beyond dispute no matter what one thinks of Revis as a person or about his relation with the Jets in the past. There is no incentive for him to cut his contract merely to help what would soon be his former team to get a better deal trading him and also hurt the team he is going to.

    And further as you also suggest if this leads TB to keep him at least one more year, he ends up having an actual incentive NOT to help them trade him, since he will make more money.

    The logic of the trade last off season and the deal TB subsequently entered into with him was that they had really entered into a series of one year contracts each at $16mil per year, with an option on TB's part to cut him if they for whatever reason did not want to pay that $16mil for the coming year. I didn't see it as giving them many more options than that, and now we see how it really doesn't.

    Therefore unless they really feel he's not in their plans, he will come back in TB next year. Least likely to happen would be a trade.
     
  7. chris5533

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    They have no choice. His figure is beyond obnoxious.
     
  8. LogeSection2RowJ

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    Why take a cut to be traded, when not taking a pay cut means you'll be cut, free to go wherever you want to go, at whatever the price you can get?
     
  9. cbman13

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    We need to stop talking about Revis. Move away from the past, and onto the future.
     
  10. LogeSection2RowJ

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    It would be insane (in a good way) if he somehow came back to us. I can't imagine my/our Jets having something break ridiculously right for them for once. I don't recall ANY team having something like that happen. A free Sheldon Richardson (OK, Dee Milliner) and a third round this year.

    That said, there is something to be said about the painful goodbye we've already had with Revis, and not wanting to go through that again.
     
  11. Big Blocker

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    I agree. My only interest here is in the admittedly esoteric field of executory contracts and how they operate under changing conditions and circumstances.
     
  12. LogeSection2RowJ

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    and according to you we have a brighter future without him on our defense than we would with that guy from the Titans...

    Are you one of those Yankee fans who now think Cano sucks?
     
  13. cbman13

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    Let it go man, just let it go. He's not coming back here, the best thing for you and everyone else is too deal with it.
     
  14. LogeSection2RowJ

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    The only AFC East team I want to see him with is ours, that's all.
     
  15. Barcs

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    He absolutely did not threaten to hold out in 2012. Where did you see that? He had a no hold out clause in the contract.
     
  16. Barcs

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    Exactly. Move away from the past year and let's get Revis back where he belongs!
     
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    Saying "I dunno" or refusing to answer a question isn't threatening a hold out. You just swallow those articles down hook line and sinker. They are all media hype. Nowhere, in any of those articles, did Revis threaten to hold out. All he did was essentially dodge the question and say he's more worried about preparing for the season than thinking about that, in the typical PC flash card style way.
     
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  18. Br4d

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    The man held out twice. When he's asked if he's going to hold out again and says "i dunno?" that's a threat.

    Be real.
     
  19. Barcs

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    That's just buying into the media hype during a year when the Jets were media cannon fodder. I can't remember the last time I threatened somebody by telling them I didn't want to answer a question. It's nothing but quotes blown out of proportion. Do I need to quote the definition of "threat" for you?

    If Revis held out that year he would have been stuck here another 2-3 years at a cheap rate based on the contract we gave him before 2010. Holding out only would have hurt him. That notion never made the least bit of sense to me, I'm surprised it was hyped as it was. Revis made a crap load of money between 2010 and 2011. His 2012 cap hit just wasn't as high, so people speculated that he'd try to renegotiate then, but that would have been a stupid move.
     
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