Handshake deal may keep Cro from coming back.

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  1. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    In all honesty, there very well could be a deal in place for Verner, but you are full of shit that you are getting word from someone lol
     
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  2. NCJetsfan

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    I can't see Cro at FS, nor his coming back if the Jets do sign Verner. What need would they have for Cro at that point? Cro can't play slot CB, he doesn't have the quickness or ability to keep up with shorter, quicker receivers. IMO Cro wouldn't make a good FS because his tackling ability is too "iffy". Would you really want him as your last line of defense? Remember Shonn Greene vs Cro in the playoffs vs San Diego the year before the Jets traded for Cro? Like you, I also don't know that he has the ability to keep the play in front of him and make the reads from that angle/position.

    Are you thinking perhaps Wilson as the FS? I've seen that suggested before on other Jets boards and that might make some sense.
     
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    Incarcerated Bob?
     
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    nevbeats319 Well-Known Member

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    moving wilson to fs means they would still have to fill the slot cb.. in that case better of keeping wilson were he is and just finding a FS
     
  5. The Waterboy

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    All this shows is the change in FA dates. The teams have 3 days to negotiate prior to the 11th so there very well could be a deal in place unlike before where they had to keep it hush hush.
    The people who are reporting the possible handshake deal just look at those teams who would have need for a CB, the cap room to do it and possibly know whether he met with the team. You throw a bunch of these handshake deals out there and percentages are that you may get a couple right.
    You inevitably get those that look upon such reporting as if the reporter truly has some inside knowledge but it effectively just a numbers game.
    Not saying there aren't those that truly do have the inside scoop but the Incarcerated Bobs well outnumber them.
     
  6. NCJetsfan

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    True, but there are some excellent CB prospects in the draft who would be very good slot corners I think. I don't know that much about the CBs, and may be wrong, but I'm thinking Lamarcus Joyner and Jaylen Watkins might make very good slot CBs.
     
  7. Barcs

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    LOL at citing one single play and trying to determine that means Cro can't play safety. Grasping for straws are we? Come on, Cro had one bad year trying to overcome and play through an injury. That doesn't mean he's permanently injured or will never come back / heal himself. It's funny how easily some Jets fans give up on our players after a down year. You can't take a performance in a year where he was hurt, and use it to determine that he's done. Cro could very well bounce back next year with his hip healed, and whoever signs him for cheap could capitalize big time. I'd love to see him play safety because he's got the speed to make it work. What I'd really LOVE to see is a rotating DB unit where Wilson sometimes takes snaps at safety, with Cromartie as the main FS, sometimes covering on the outside or going against faster receivers. I do like Wilson in the slot though. He doesn't put up flashy numbers, but he does a decent job. Milliner, Wilson, Cromartie, Verner & Allen could be a formidable unit. Throw in some Lankster and Walls here and there and we're golden.
     
  8. NCJetsfan

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    You are the least knowledgeable poster on here, so for you to laugh at anything that anyone else says is a joke. That play just highlights Cro's tackling deficiencies. There have been lots of others where he has whiffed on tackles or not made a lot of effort during his time with the Jets. But then if you watched games or had any inkling of what you were talking about, you'd know that. I think you should take up Tiddly Winks. That's about your speed.
     
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    I LOVE the personal insults every single time I make a valid point. Your counter point is seriously "There have been lots of others where he has whiffed on tackles or not made a lot of effort during his time with the Jets". By all means, give me some examples from before he was injured. He's made a few mistakes, as everybody does, but saying he didn't make a lot of effort???? Dude played all year through a hip injury, when he could have sat and healed.

    But yeah I'm the least knowledgeable poster on here... except for the fact that nobody ever proves my points wrong. The bottom line is my posts are dead on accurate 90% of the time. The other 10% are opinions and jokes. Ad Hominem attacks do not prove your point. I pointed out the ridiculousness of your judgement of Cromartie. The play that you cited is compeltely irrelevant to his potential as a safety. It's not even remotely close. You wonder why I laugh.

    Anyway, your posts are usually decent on here, but I had to point out how silly that judgement was, but no I'm not going to call you names over it.
     
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    That would only work on 3rd downs and that would be too costly in the end.
     
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    I hope we keep Reed another year . He would be a nice coach/player type ...
     
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    It is amazing if Revis leaves TB for what they gave up. I cannot see other DB's going the same route revis did. It is not a desirable position to throw the $$$ that Revis and Nnambdi Aso got.
     
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    2 million in cash and a new identity and passport. Child support ain't cheap.
     
  14. LAJet

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    It's hard to believe that a hand shake deal is already in place for Verner at this time based on the current $$$ I see suggested by many as the contract value per year.

    As I mentioned in another tread, Miami signed Grimes for $8M and GB resigned Shields for over $9M so unless the hand shake has a very high value, say $9.5M or more, a figure I suspect is more than Idzik is comfortable with, why would Verner have agreed so quickly with other realistic suitors out there, like NE and the Giants.

    I hope I'm wrong but I smell a potential let down here.
     
  15. tank75

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    apparently verner likes rex's defense and how it benefits cb's, so theres that
     
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    You're starting to sound like Junc Jr.

    And that play is EXACTLY why Cro ain't no SS.

    What's next? You gonna say that Sanchez flinching as a wide-out is not indicative of his potential as a receiver?
     
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    God I hope so, and if that is the case, perhaps is time for us to recognize the importance and value of a coach like Rex that attracts football talent willing to take less to play for a coach they respect and trust. Good knows the Jets have not had one like him since the 90s with Bill.
    IMHO, A few fans and a lot of media talking heads have traditionally underestimated Ryan's value, and diminished what Rex has done with the overall talent on this team, including the lack of a mature NFL ready QB since he arrived and a dismal display of offensive explosiveness, coupled with some sorry ass distractions brought by the owner's desire to sell PSLs first and championships later.

    Ooooops, sorry for derailing this tread TGG members. I got carried away
     
  18. Rockinz

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    OP has some serious insecurity issues lol

    If we sign Verner that means we are either keeping Reed and drafting a FS to learn under him OR we are giving the keys to AA.
     
  19. shaiydyjet

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    Verner plays the right side almost exclusively. Never been matched up with "1's or 2's". I can definitely see us being the highest bidder, having him right, milliner left, and Wilson in the slot.

    Wilson belongs in the slot. It's the only place he's worth a damn. Then play Allen as a "spur" safety, like Spurrier did with him at SC, and he'll excel. Look what he did to Gronkowski last year.

    Resign Reed at vet minimum. I think Rex realized what he did wrong the last couple games, and had more success using the future HoF'er primarily in the nickel and as a mentor, see Reeds picks in last few games vs Allen's playtime and Milliners December turnaround/lightbulb.

    Keep Landry the elder for one more year, he knows the system and can teach the new guys.

    Cromartie is done as a jet I think. He's Braylon Edwards-ish in how that injury might make it a wrap, a one and done with some other team notwithstanding. Keep in mind, that's the hip he broke and played through in San Diego. It's sad, he did really well for us, but I think idzik sees that it's better to do it now than later.
     
  20. Geno007

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    Dude really? This got to be the dumbest thread of all time.
     

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