Rockinz 2014 Mock Draft

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  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I disagree completely. Dennard is an excellent coverage CB but his ball skills are not very good. Gilbert OTOH has great ball skills, better speed and his coverage ability is either as good as Dennard's or not far behind. This team needs defensive playmakers as much as it does offensive playmakers. The Jets rank 30th in the NFL I believe in TO differential. We don't need a CB in the first round that doesn't have great ball skills. The point can be made that we don't even need another 1st round CB. The Jets have taken a disproportionate amount of 1st CBs over the last 10 years. I think the fan base would revolt if the Jets took Dennard, and rightfully so. They'd probably still revolt with Gilbert, but much less so due to his blazing speed and ball skills, as well as his ability as a KOR.
     
  2. Dax89

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    I honestly don't know much about Gilbert, so I won't comment on him specifically. But if Cro is gone for good and we don't pick up a FA corner, it's a position that's a need as much as any we have on the team. CB's in Rex's system first and foremost have to be able to play on an island above anything else (see Revis and Cro--neither were exactly turnover machines), which is exactly what Dennard has done his entire career at Michigan State. He's actually a much better fit than Milner was coming out of college. Also I very much believe it will be easier to find a WR that fits our system in the 2nd than it will be to find a corner after the 1st.
     
  3. NCJetsfan

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    I don't disagree with you regarding it being easier to find a starting caliber WR in the 2nd round than it would be a CB. The thing is, however, that Milliner is supposed to be their #1 CB. The Jets don't need two #1 CBs. That is a luxury. They especially won't need two #1 CBs if they address the OLB position in the draft and add a FA FS like Chris Clemmons.

    You're right that neither Revis nor Cro were TO machines, and that was part of their weakness and the weakness in the Jets' D. If I'm not mistaken (and I may be, but I don't think so) the top teams, the ones who make it to and win the SB, are among the league leaders in creating TOs. One can't depend upon one's D to always stop the other team from driving down the field. One's D has to be able to create TOs. When Rex came here, one of the first things he said that he intended for the D to do was to pressure the QB, not so much to get sacks, but to create TOs as they can lead to quick scores or scoring opportunities. The Jets have totally failed in that regard. Now that both Revis and Cro are gone, it is time to correct that flaw. No more DBs who don't have excellent ball skills. There are DBs in every draft who have excellent ball skills. The Jets just need to find them and get them.
     
  4. CleveSteve

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    Carr's got the best arm in the draft, I don't think many would argue that. Also, I don't agree that Benjamin is the most-gifted, hes just the tallest. People rank guys differently and Im not trying to say you are wrong for drafting them there but those are my least favorite WR and QB being talked about in 1st round.
     
  5. NCJetsfan

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    With regard to the QBs, I think the description "best arm" depends upon what you mean. If you're talking purely about the strongest arm, then you may be right about Carr. I don't know that level of detail. If you're talking about the most accurate arm and the best QB, then I disagree. I don't think Teddy Bridgewater is head and shoulders better than either Carr or Bortles.

    I totally agree with you regarding Benjamin. I don't like him very much at all. I wouldn't want the Jets to touch him before the 49th pick and maybe not that high if ASJ, Davante Adams or a great OLB prospect is there. Rockinz has a man crush on Benjamin. It has clouded his vision.
     
  6. Rockinz

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    Agree 100%

    Gilbert is the man! With cro gone... If he's there Idzik has shown he takes the secondary very seriously by taking Milliner at #9 last year. If Gilbert is there that might be the next Jet rookie..
     
  7. Rockinz

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    New update

    2014 Mock Draft

    1. Houston - DE Jadeveon Clowney
    2. St. Louis - WR Sammy Watkins
    3. Jacksonville - QB Johnny Manziel
    4. Cleveland - QB Blake Bortles
    5. Oakland - WR Mike Evans
    6. Atlanta - OT Greg Robinson
    7. Tampa Bay - DE Anthoney Barr
    8. Minnesota - QB Teddy Bridgewater
    9. Buffalo - OLB Khalil Mack
    10. Detroit - CB Justin Gilbert
    11. Tennessee - OT Jake Mathews
    12. New York Giants - TE Eric Ebron
    13. St. Louis - OT Taylor Lewan
    14. Chicago - CB Darqueze Dennard
    15. Pittsburgh - DT Aaron Donald
    16. Dallas - DT Louis Nix
    17. Baltimore - OT Zack Martin
    18. New York Jets - CB Bradley Roby
    19. Miami - DT Timmy Jernigan
    20. Arizona - ILB CJ Mosley
    21. Green Bay - FS Ha Ha Clinton Dix
    22. Philadelphia - WR Brandin Cooks
    23. Kansas City - TE Jace Amaro
    24. Cincinnati - DE Kony Ealy
    25. San Diego - WR Marqise Lee
    26. Cleveland - WR Kelvin Benjamin
    27. New Orleans - ILB Ryan Shazier
    28. Carolina - WR Odell Beckham
    29. New England - TE Austin SeferianJenkins
    30. San Fransisco - SS Calvin Pryor
    31. Denver - DT RaShede Hageman
    32. Seattle - WR Davante Adams
     
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    I want us to draft a WR or a TE but i have a feeling we will draft a CB and Rex apparently loves Roby.

    Not thrilled with them taking him that high it's just a gut feeling they will!
     
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    if they trade for d.jackson than maybe they pass on lee. but i can't see it
     
  10. WW85

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    I want no part of Roby. I live in Columbus and have followed his career, severely overrated and not worth a 1st rd pick.

    Jared Abberderis punked his ass all over the field, it was ugly.

    If we sign DJ, I doubt we go WR in Rd 1, especially Beckham & Cooks. I would go with a better value player like Zach Martin, Cinton-Dix, Dennard or Pryor. We can still add another bigger WR later, like Adams in Rd 2 or Moncrief in Rd 3.
     
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    I'm not big on Roby either... I just have a feeling Rex see's a bit of Revis in him... Gilbert will be off the board, maybe DD might slip to us but im not confident in that. Roby or Fuller will be our options if we decide thats the way we need to go...

    I strongly feel if we would still want to draft a WR AND acquire Djax it would be Benjamin. He would be the best fit for sure. Decker and Kerley running short and medium routes, Djax a deep threat with YAC abilities and Benjamin a redzone target that can dominate 1-1 jump balls and will be affective on back shoulder sideline plays.
     
  12. WW85

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    I don't see how Rex could see "a bit of Revis' in Roby. Roby is lacking in man coverage and that's something Rex expects from his corners.

    If we sign DJ, I'd skip the Rd 1 WR (Benjamin) and put our efforts into another glaring weakness, possibly secondary.

    DJ, Decker, Kerley and draft a player like Moncrief in Rd 3 and add Niklas in Rd 2 and we would have a significant upgrade on the Offensive side of the ball.
     
  13. Rockinz

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    Looks like DJax wont be coming our way this season so hopefully we still look at Cooks.

    Interesting that you think Roby isn't great in man coverage... I thought he was pretty good, i just dont like his size...
     
  14. WW85

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    I think it's still early, DJ could still be cut or traded. A tweet from DJ isn't enough for me.
     
  15. Rockinz

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    True, it could be posturing by the Eagles while the league meetings are going on...

    I think it's safe to say if he's not on the Eagles by the draft he will play for them this year though. I doubt they cut him... We have 4 picks in the 6th round!! 3 we cant trade but our pick we can obviously... His contract is big but c'mon he's worth a 6th rounder even with that cap hit. Why would they cut him and get nothing?
     
  16. Rockinz

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    This draft is going to be great!!
     
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    New update

    2014 Mock Draft 6.0

    1. Houston - DE Jadeveon Clowney
    2. TRADE Cleveland - QB Johnny Manziel
    3. Jacksonville - QB Teddy Bridgewater
    4. TRADE St. Louis - WR Sammy Watkins
    5. Oakland - OLB Khalil Mack
    6. Atlanta - OT Greg Robinson
    7. Tampa Bay - DE Anthoney Barr
    8. Minnesota - QB Blake Bortles
    9. Buffalo - WR Mike Evans
    10. Detroit - CB Justin Gilbert
    11. Tennessee - OT Jake Mathews
    12. New York Giants - TE Eric Ebron
    13. St. Louis - OT Taylor Lewan
    14. Chicago - DT Aaron Donald
    15. Pittsburgh - CB Darqueze Dennard
    16. Dallas - DT Louis Nix
    17. TRADE Philadelphia - WR Brandin Cooks
    18. New York Jets - WR Kelvin Benjamin
    19. Miami - DT Timmy Jernigan
    20. Arizona - ILB CJ Mosley
    21. Green Bay - FS Ha Ha Clinton Dix
    22. TRADE Baltimore - OT Zack Martin
    23. Kansas City - OT Morgan Moses
    24. Cincinnati - DE Kony Ealy
    25. San Diego - WR Marqise Lee
    26. Cleveland - WR Odell Beckham
    27. New Orleans - ILB Ryan Shazier
    28. Carolina - WR Devante Adams
    29. New England - Austin Seferian-Jenkins
    30. San Fransisco - SS Calvin Pryor
    31. Denver - CB Bradley Roby
    32. Seattle - DT RaShede Hageman
     
  18. themorey

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    This certainly is against the mainstream so kudos on that. I just don't believe the Jets, and Idzik in particular, would take Benjamin over Mosely if things fell this way.
     
  19. BakerMaker

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    Pryor falling to 30 is borderline criminal. Same with Haha falling to GB. Make either guy the Jets pick there.
     
  20. Donttasemebro

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    Can someone point me to a reputable scout/coach/NFL bro who has an article explaining why they have a 1st round rating on Kelvin Benjamin?

    I haven't seen one anywhere yet people keep suggesting him as a first round Jets pick. By all accounts he's a physical specimen but he's also a 23 year old sophomore who is a poor route runner with pedestrian speed, marginal hands and concentration issues. Not bashing him...I'd love him in the 4th round but I don't see where the first round talk is coming from.
     

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