WW85's POST COMBINE JET's MOCK

Discussion in 'Draft' started by WW85, Feb 26, 2014.

  1. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    C'mon who really thought at this point he would be one of the best defensive lineman in the league in his 3rd year? I didn't think he would get this good this fast. Thank the Heavens we got him.
     
  2. NCJetsfan

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    I thought he was a great prospect and really wanted the Jets to draft him. Did I know he'd be one of the best 3-4 DEs in the NFL at this point? No, but I thought he'd be a dynamic, very good player. Very good to great players usually don't take 3 years to develop. I'm not really surprised that much by his play at all.
     
  3. Dax89

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    Didn't know much about him before the draft, but after his rookie season, where he played very well despite being a small school rookie, I knew he was going to be special. Not only does he play great, he fits exactly what Rex wants from his D-line. And to think we managed to pick him up at pick #30 is great.
     
  4. Windeos

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    I completely agree, I'd much rather take the BPA at 18 than reach for Beckham. There will be plenty of good WR's available with our 2nd & 3rd round picks.
     
  5. Rockinz

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    I have said it many times that Benjamin needs to work on his concentration. That can be fixed at the next level.
     
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    Ill be honest with ya, ive NEVER been a big draft guy but ive never been this excited for the draft in my entire time being a Jets fan. I cant wait to see who this team adds.
     
  7. CleveSteve

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    1) Beckham is a terrific pickup and might be the best route-runner in the draft... certainly on-par in that aspect with Lee and Matthews. Very precise and skilled. Athletic guy. My favorite pick here.
    2) No strong opinion on Bucannon other than I have to think you could add another impact playmaker here. Just a matter of preference.
    3a) Inconsistent but man when he is on he is on. Definitely worth a risk in the 3rd.
    3b) Ellington I think is a solid pickup. Not sure how much he adds over Kerley but you know the Jets' needs better than I do.
    4) This is the one I disagree most on. I don't think Mettenberger is a real solid fit for a West Coast Offense, though I may be following too much of a strict definition. Typically in a WCO, you move the QB around a lot and have him throw on the move. Mettenberger is a pocket guy and is going to be on a weak chicken wing for a year or two. I think Murray would be better suited if you're redshirting a QB prospect. JMO anyways.
    5) I haven't seen anything from Tripp other than the combine yet, so I can't say anything other than he has the skills to be competent in pass coverage.
    6a) Very good value in a multi-position backup with starter potential
    6b) Not a fan, though he does have good speed for his size and in the sixth why not.
    6c) Don't know much about Hoffman
    7) More good depth for the OL.

    JMO.
     
  8. laxin

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    Why? Why do you think he was the #2 at LSU? The players were just utilized differently.

    Do you not understand that different players can be utilized differently? Kendall Wright may catch more passes than Josh Gordon next year, but it sure as hell doesnt mean that Kendall Wright is a better player or more valuable. Landry was the underneath WR while Beckham had the intermediate and deep routes. Its only logical for Landry to have more catches (but also a lower YPC). Its just like if you put Mike Evans on this team next year, I can guarantee you Jeremy kerley will have more catches. In reality who is the better, more valuable player?

    Im 99% sure Ive went over this, what arent you getting?
     
  9. Truth4U2

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    I hope we take Marqise Lee at #18. I think he will end up being the best WR to come out of this draft.
     
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    I get what your saying i just think your wrong.

    Beckham is a good player but he didn't get the coverage a true#1 did in collage. Watch the tape and see for yourself! Landry took a lot of heat off him.
     
  11. WW85

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    That's not entirely true, both players complimented each other and helped each other's game. If you think Landry only helped Beckham and it wasn't reciprocal, you're fooling yourself.

    Rock...somtimes the stuff you put in print just makes no sense. If you post nonsense , I'm going to call you out.

    Explain to me how a true # 1 College WR gets proper coverage. Landry wasn't a "#1 WR".

    Again, I hate the term #1 WR, there aren't more than a handful dominant truely so called"#1 WRs" in College. football.
     
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    And who DID get the coverage a "true #1" did? You're just spewing shit out of your mouth unless you have the all-22 film. Thats the only way you can truly see the coverage. Fact of the matter is, Beckham has risen to a top 20 player and the number 3-4 WR in the draft as I've been saying for a long time. You look on tape and the guy is a dynamic player with great hands and versatility. You look at your boy Benjamin and you see a sluggish WR that has concentration/drop issues, and is not a great route runner. He's a solid 2nd round prospect, but he's nowhere near Beckham in terms of talent.
     
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    ^ This all day long.
     
  14. Rockinz

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    This is what i am saying!

    Other top 10 WRs in this class didn't have that ''complimentary'' receiver to take the heat off. Show me 3 snaps where either Landry or Beckham were doubled and the QB took the doubled option. In College throwing into double coverage is a constant and with a handful of WRs in this class that faced it night in and night out and still made plays and thrived! Evans leads the way in this category.

    Once again i like Beckham and i'm not shitting on him but lets be real here the kid caught 59 passes this year people!!! Is that not alarming to anyone???
     
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    Teams that faced LSU played a honest pass D and neither got true #1 coverage at all times.
     
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    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    Would you be willing to put you money where your mouth is...

    I will wager anyone 50 bucks Benjamin will be the better WR between him and Beckham next season.

    we will judge by stats in 3 categories.
    Yards
    TD`s
    Receptions

    Whoever between the 2 has the best stats wins. Simple.

    The looser transfers 50 bucks to the winner AND admit the other receiver is better period.
     
  17. WW85

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    BENJY CAUGHT ONLY 54>>>>>THAT'S ALARMING TOO!

    You're dissing Beckham and saying if it wasn't for Landry he wouldn't be the same player, don't you think it works both ways. You diss Beckham and not Landry, makes no sense.

    Do you know who Rashad Greene is?? I really don't think you have a clue who he is, don't look him up, I'll tell you.

    FSU's LEADING RECEIVER....I guess Benjamin sucks cause he didn't get double teamed and had average stats like Beckham.....according to you.

    Greene had more yards and recptions than KB...a fact!!! I guess KB isn't the same receiver you thought he was since he truly wasn't the "#1 WR". See my friend, you can't have it both ways. In your scenario, it's only the situation for LSU (Beckham) & not FSU.

    Hell, Kenny Shaw had reception and yards similar to KB.



    Again, foot in mouth syndrome. Benjy..54 for 2013...that's freaking "alarming". Mike Evans .....only 69 receptions. Your supposely #1 WR (Benjy) didn't have #1 stats as far as receptions. The players you should be in love with is Brandin Cooks , Davante Adams & Watkins.


    Rock, I recommend you do a lot more studying of players, before you open your mouth. You just don't get it.

    You're embarrassing yourself.
     
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  18. WW85

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    You think?

    You're spot on my friend.

    I proved that with my previous post.

    He's a borderline troll.
     
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    Now you're acting like a juvenile.

    Rock....More studying of players and less uneducated, moronic posts.

    I've tried to help you and only recently I've been on your case. I've been here 10 + years and very rarely have I called out someone like I have you. I usually let a lot of stuff slide by, but you're continuing to dig a DEEP hole. Your nonsense has been going on far too long and it's annoying.....almost trolling.
     
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  20. Rockinz

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    Wow bud... Can't believe i hit a nerve with my opinion.

    Just because i dont agree with your assessment on a player over mine doesn't make it nonsense. You think he is a lock to be a #1 WR and i think he is a Boom or Bust pick like Benjamin.

    You have no idea how much experience i have with the draft. So don't act like you do.

    If you like a player like Beckham that catches 102 passes in TWO YEARS to be a lock lol.. With 10 years experience you should know thats a very very small sample size of film. Now, that small sample size is good if not great i agree with you there but it doesn't show him beating double coverage a trait you need to be great in the NFL!!! BUT my point remains that he is a Boom or Bust pick because of his lack of catches and lack of film on beating double teams.

    i will be even more perfectly clear I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE JETS TAKING BECKHAM! Why? Because i love Boom or Bust picks!
     

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