When you can do what he has done in the best conference in College Football, you have to take notice.
I hear what you are saying, I just think that he is mucho capable of being a deep threat if given the chance to do so, he certainly has the speed, technique, and size to be a nice vertical threat in the NFL. I don't think that argument in my eyes is strong enough to push him out of the first round, when compared to everything he has shown in his career thus far. Almost every WR has something that they are lacking, even a guy like Watkins. He wasn't used as a vertical threat, he lacks in that department, I'm sure the scheme they used at Clemson has a lot to do with this. He is a guy that did most of his damage from behind the line of scrimmage. He also isn't a very technically sound route runner either. He has a very high ceiling though, so I understand why he is the number one rated WR. I can't deny that. I think that Jordan Matthews at the very worst has proven that he should be in the same tier as Evans and Lee. I think that Jordan Matthews is the third best receiver right now, could be my second come draft day. We'll see.
Jordan Matthews is definitely a first round pick. Mid to late. I think Matthews excels at generating yards after the catch, which is exactly the type of wide out I like. I just want the Jets to draft someone that is already solid that can still be polished. Matthews to me, his attitude, work ethic, hands and route running are the perfect combination. And he's got the biggest hands out of any wide out. Your assessment of him is pretty spot on. Maybe he improves in the vertical aspect of his game as his career develops. Right now - he's got skill-sets that will translate to the next level. I believe he contributes early in the short and immediate range.
He didn't look concerned with the bench press with 21 reps lol...Matthews is a good route runner and he can essentially play all WR spots on the field.
If the Jets draft Matthews, I see him being the perfect #2. The Jets need to find their top wide-out via FA due to veteran experience. If the Jets can get multiple targets (and not just focus on one) the offense will be much better. Eventually he could be a #1 if he hits his ceiling which would be similar to Reggie Wayne We want to spread the football around.
Easier said than done but if we could draft a legit #2 sign a #1, still have Kerley, draft an upgrade a TE and re-sign Cumberland as a #2 we have the makings of a pretty solid offense as long as Geno evolves with it. OL needs some upgrades too obviously.
Seeing as we don't have the luxury of a WR1 on our roster currently, I think we should be drafting the most polished WR we can because the kid is getting thrown into the fire. For this reason, we should be looking at guys with high floors - not just high ceilings - in the first 3 rounds. Matthews looks like the safest WR pick to me.
I like Mathews.. Speed is the only real concern with him.. He doesnt get separation the way i would like to take him early... If he is there with our Bucs pic i am all for it!
The only reason people are saying he doesn't get separation is because he didn't play well at the senior bowl. That does not take into account his 3 years at Vandy putting the team on his back, nor did you research what he did during the Senior Bowl practices. Matthews will not be available in the middle of the 2nd round let alone the Bucs 3rd round pick lmao. Your boy Benjamin has the lowest floor out of any of the first 2 tiers of WR prospects - Jets need someone more polished and not raw like Benjamin.
I dont think he has the lowest floor at all... His floor is lower that 7/8 WRs in this class BUT has the highest ceiling out of ANY WRs including Sammy (who i love). One thing i know is that Benjamin can catch a back shoulder pass all day long because he has the size and strength as everyone saw yesterday! Back shoulder pass is the new NFL and it would be foolish to think Benjamin cant make those catches. I love his combo of size, strength, hands, speed and attitude! I also like WRs that dominate in single coverage at the highest collage level.
Benjamin absolutely has the lowest floor. How many players truly reach their full potential? Not many. Back shoulder passes aren't the only type of catches in the NFL. Matthews can make any catch on the field - it's on tape. Matthews is a type of receiver that can utilize the entire route tree, has good hands and most importantly is prob one of the more NFL ready receivers in the draft (which we sorely need). There are other ways to gain separation other then straight line speed. The Jets have failed at drafting project like players with low floors and high ceilings. If I had more confidence in Sal our WR coach in developing wide-outs maybe I would think twice.
Matthews is my favorite receiver in this draft besides Watkins. He has the most accomplished body of work, and he also is very athletic which just means he will be productive. We don't need a MEGATRON we need a solid #1 who you can get a nice 20 yard gain a few times a game, and if he is wide open to take it to the house. I would be all for this guy at #18 to be honest with you. I think he sneaks up higher than that. Evans is a little too raw and Lee is a worry with staying on the field.
I'll repeat this from my 1st post...you don't become the all time leader in receiving in the SEC without having talent. Jordan Matthews may not have the physical ability of some of his competition, but none of them will out work him. I still think Matthews will be a late Rd 1 selection. I think the Jets will have a few better options at #18....Cooks and Beckham respectively.
I think drafting for the short term is a mistake. Additionally, most WRs need time before they are ready to take on a full time role. I wouldnt select a WR based on those parameters.Its too hard to project & WRs are fickel.If you overexpose them early it can stun their growth. Plenty of productive reasonably priced options in FA to step up for this coming year.Let the young WR(s) compete with the likes of Hill & Nelson early.If they earn a bigger role fantastic.But lets not force our hand
I see Jordan Matthews as a 10-12 year starter in the NFL. Just like Reggie Wayne. I want the wide-out that will outwork everyone on the field.
I'm not into the safe pick. I want us to try and take the most athletic physical athlete and let our coaches mold them into Jets. Rex has done it on D with several players Mo Wilks especially!! I think Marty has a creative enough offensive football mind to take a raw physical athlete ala Benjamin and make him great rather than take a polished mid sized guy ala Beckam, Cooks, Landry, Mathews and plug them in and be what there body type can be.
We just tried this 2 seasons ago. I do not have much confidence in the Jets wide receiver coach to mold talent and make them stars.
I don't know if that was more Hill just not being the guy they thought or, like you said, our coaching. I'm pretty content that Hill just doesn't have the ability Tanny thought he saw in him.
There were many layers to the Hill blunder. 1. Typical Tanny anointed him as a starter the second they drafted him. We saw what anointing players who haven't earned it does to player/team psych 2. He was extremely raw coming out.It was as clear as the eyes could see. Like I said earlier..playing WRs too early can stun their growth. Hill needed a low key situation where he could develop his game...not have his gm calling him Calvin Johnson his first day in the building.
