Mehta: Jets targeting Maclin, Sanders

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I don't see the point in bringing in Keller either. He really isn't that much different than Cumberland. And Cumberland is cheaper, younger and not coming off a major injury. I think a better option would be using money at other positions and thinking about TE in the draft - whether it's one of the 1st round boys or in rounds 2 or 3
     
  2. soxxx

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    Cutting Hill doesnt really make sense, hes only making $750,000, he is going into year 2 with Marty. Id rather have him on the bench than be paying some random guy that will likely never see much playing time.
     
  3. nyjunc

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    yep, he's a really good slot guy, we need guys on the outside. we need to bring in at least one in FA. I don't think we can go into the season w/ a couple of rookies and kerley and expect to have a huge difference in the pass game.
     
  4. MikeSLTJ23

    MikeSLTJ23 Well-Known Member

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    My personal opinion is that I hate paying market price for "weapons". Football's won in the trenches. I want our big money to go to the trenches and we can draft those weapons. If guys come cheap, then fine. I just don't want a big splash FA WR or TE.
     
  5. MikeSLTJ23

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    I'd be okay with that. I just don't think there's a need to pay a ton for it. I think Maclin or Sanders could come cheap enough to be solid targets for us. I just want a guy who wants to prove himself so he can help the team, not prove himself so that he can be the man. Then we draft a WR or 2, and it's all open competition (especially since when push comes to shove, WR1 and WR2 aren't positions but just a matter of who performs and who doesn't).
     
  6. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I don't think Idzik is going to break the bank, I think if there is a bidding war we lose, if they get fair market value they could come here. we just need talent on O, we have lacked weapons for years now, we need to bring in talent.
     
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    What if the Jets draft a WR that has the same skill-set, costs the same (maybe even cheaper) and has just as much upside via the draft? What if this WR outperforms Stephen Hill during TC?

    Would you rather have Stephen Hill doing absolutely nothing on the bench? Or would you cut him and allow this other wide receiver to take those snaps?
     
  8. MikeSLTJ23

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    And I think that's the right way to approach it. Look at Washington. They tend to win those FA battles a lot. It's worked out nicely for them. Paying over market value for players just doesn't work. I'm okay with doing so only if it were to get a QB, protect the QB, or get to the QB, but even then, I hate the idea of paying over market. You win by finding the bargains. Let's just hope he can.
     
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    If he learned anything in Seattle he won't break the bank.
     
  10. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    It might not make sense to cut him in the offseason, but he certainly shouldn't be guaranteed a roster spot during training camp.

    the last 2 years, he's been afforded opportunities that he didn't necessarily earn because of where he was drafted. That stops this year. If he makes the team it's because he stepped it up and earned his spot, not because he was a 2nd round pick or has "great potential". Conversely if he gets outplayed by 5 other WRs in camp, even if one of them is a damn walk on off the street - he gets the axe, as well he should.
     
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    I'd take either. Hopefully one can be had at an economic rate.
     
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    first off, Mehta likely either making this up, or working off very flimsy sources at this point.

    that said, Maclin, Sanders, and James Jones are guys I'm very interested in.
    If we go with Maclin, might just need to sign 1 more guy as insurance (in addition to targeting 1 in the draft).

    another guy i really like who should cost around 3mil per, is Dexter McCluster.
    will help on ST, WR, and can play some 3rd down back to create mismatches. A player MM can get creative with.

    Maclin, McCluster, and high WR draft pick would give us a lot more options than 2013 did. I just worry a little whether Maclin can regain form this season.
     
  13. soxxx

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    Im not a fan of Hill, as a Sanchez fan I will never forgive him for that dropped pass in New England, it would have changed the game and the season. But reguardless of that, I would at least bring him into training camp and evaluate how he performs. If he still is underperforming and the front office would prefer guys like Salas then so be it.

    If the Jets are really looking to acquire receivers in FA and the draft then Hill better bring his A game to training camp.
     
  14. legler82

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    I'd try to trade him. He should have some value even if just as guy you need to blow the top off coverage to open things up underneath. San Fran for example would be a nice fit. They need a deep threat to create some space for Boldin, Crabtree and Davis. Since they lost Moss, Davis has been their only real deep threat. The one thing that Hill can do is get deep and Kap is probably one of handful of QBs in the league with an arm he can't outrun.
     
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    There's no value in trading Hill unless your just looking to get a 7th round pick. He hasn't blown the top off of defenses. He has to show other teams he can consistently beat them deep if they don't account for him. He just hasn't produced. And for a 7th round pick i'd rather just bring him back and take another shot with him in a lesser role and see if he can grow.

    I don't know what happened with Hill. He got off to a really solid start this past season and I thought he was starting to emerge as a real threat. Then he just disappeared until he got hurt. I don't know if it's all him, the QB play, or some combination of both.

    I'd still like to bring Hill back next year and give him 1 more season to try and become the player the Jets thought they were getting when they drafted him.
     
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    I would rather address the TE need with our first rounder. Get a guy like Ebron or (the one I'd prefer) Amaro. Then pick up a WR or two in free agency and maybe draft a guy like Brandon Coleman with a later pick. (Rutgers wideout who has fallen considerably after being regarded as a first rounder.)

    Five is a bit excessive as we already have Kerley, Hill (ugh), and Nelson likely returning.
     
  17. Jets69

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    His source is ESPN insider!
     
  18. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    It's Mehta... so probably neither will come BUT if i had a choice i'd take a shot with Maclin
     
  19. Tight end has become an interesting position with the modern rules. This is a high impact position with a very high rate of injury.It only makes sense to stack TE talent.

    This is why a minimum deal with a guy like Keller is a slam dunk.odds are very good that he'll outperform the contract even If he only gives you 8 games. Cumberland/draft pick/keller is pretty good
     
  20. TonyMaC

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    Maclin... Maclin, Maclin... what is it about this guys case that makes me NOT want him on this team on a "show me" contract?

    Paranoid feeling that he'll cost us more down the road than other options I guess... I'd rather sign a vet to a more manageable negotiable contract for the next 5 years than get Maclin good and cheap this year.

    Its likely any new addition will be cheap ANYHOW coming into the first year of their deal no matter what they make later on (hell given the teams cap leniency we may want to pay them more this year as incentive to join the jets while making a lower average amount the next few years) Just as well it'll be easier to negotiate terms with a player thats getting a perviously set base salary in a moment of sought after cap savings than a player who only came aboard on the cheap to prove he's worth

    hes 25 going on 26 in the 2014 season and is 27 in 2015. Say he's awesome, what does NFL stand for? Not For Long. he's gonna wanna make his money right then and there, a good amount of it as his value just shot up and he lost a year he could have made more in as it is. he may also have free agency to lean on, the jets would be setting themselves up to lose him or for them to pay him BIG money and take a big ole cap hit in a year where some other players will be potentially locked in.

    I wouldn't even begrudge him for doing it, it makes sense for him but I'm not convinced the jets have to go that way just to get quality at WR THIS year or even the next few.

    is there no way to lock up a quality WR for few years without taking a potentially damning cap hit a successful show me year from Maclin would produce as well? i think there is.
     

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