Let us Never Compare Peyton to Brady again

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  1. Trip McNealy

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    Watters had 11 carries that game while Smith had 24.
     
  2. Trip McNealy

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    Also Young met Aikman 3 times in the playoffs going 1-2(and never being badly outplayed) and Favre was a better player than Young.

    Young's bad playoff games came against GB. He won his last one on the Owens play.
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    yep and who made the biggest play of the game? was it Emmitt in the run game or Aikman in the pass game?

    he was badly outplayed in the 2 losses, he outplayed Aikman in the lone win. That was the difference in all those games.

    got lucky b/c Rice had fumbled on that drive or the Owens play never happens.
     
  4. Trip McNealy

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    This isn't exactly proving Aikman had a better career and your Jerry Rice point is meaningless.

    Unless you want to start dissecting AIkman's playoff games later in his career....but that's probably not a smart move. It involves Jake Plummer.
     
  5. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I didn't say Aikman had a better career, clearly Young put up much better #s but if I had a choice btw the 2 I'm taking Troy.

    Young lost 3 home playoff games, Aikman 1.
     
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    You can't just say the 2011 Colts quit. There is no proof to back that up other then they were not any good without Peyton.

    Tebow won a playoff game with an 8-8 team.
     
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    Neither Peyton nor Brady can lay claim to title of best QB of all time after what we've seen from them in the playoffs.
     
  8. Trip McNealy

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    I mean I've seen Joe Montana have awful playoff games. This mythical QB that's undefeated in the playoffs and wins the SB every year doesn't exist. Which is why giving someone like Steve Young or Brett Favre shit for playoff losses is pretty silly. They were still all time greats. There's no perfect player.
     
  9. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Tebow was 7-4 as the starting QB, if he is QB all season they probably win 10 games.

    There is proof, look at how quickly they rebounded a year later. They completely quit, tanked the season for Luck.
     
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    Oh and for all the people that say its just "one game" and it shouldn't change the view on him, then your telling me that had he won it, it wouldn't have changed the view on him either?

    We should be looking at him the same way if he had won it?
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    every QB has clunkers in the playoffs, the difference is guys like Favre, Young and Manning have clunkers more often than great games.

    are they still all time great QBs? of course but they aren't in the discussion for best of all time b/c of their play in postseason when the games mattered most.
     
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    Isn't it funny how people were anointing Peyton going into the SB b/c they assumed Denver would win? same thing happened in SB XLIV.
     
  13. WhySoSerious488

    WhySoSerious488 Well-Known Member

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    No Brady has been a much better QB since 2005, his teams have just gotten worse. Are you really insane enough to think Brady 2001-2004 is better than Brady from 2005-present? You must take that position, which I submit is utterly insane. His teams have gotten worse over the years as he has gotten better and had to shoulder more of the load.

    This season was probably Brady's worst since early in his career, but from 2007 through 2012, he was dominant.
     
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    I don't know about that because their careers are not over. What if Manning wins the next two Super Bowls? What if Manning wins one and Brady wins the other?

    Unitas, Graham, Baugh, Montana, Elway, Marino, Favre and several other greats all had playoff clunkers where they stunk and/or their team got blown out.
     
  15. Trip McNealy

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    That's not really true either.
     
  16. WhySoSerious488

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    In Montana's first SB win, he threw for 157 yards and 1 TD. Based on that performance, I have to elevate him to an echelon above everyone else? He'd be thought of very differently with 3 SB wins as opposed to 4. So based on a subpar effort for a QB, one that Peyton would probably take a lot of heat for ("yeah they won, but Peyton had a pathetic 157 yards so it really wasn't a win for him"), I have to elevate Montana ahead of everyone else? Sorry, nope.

    Montana certainly played very well in his other SB victories, but in at least two of them the opponent was very overmatched.

    Also, LOL at the bolded, I saw Montana play, he is an all-time great, but there's nothing he was capable of on a football field that makes me think I can't compare Peyton to him. You arrogant blowhard
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    the most talented team he played with was the 2007 team, he failed in that SB. He's better now w/o a doubt and he is elevating average teams to great heights but he overachieved earlier and is underachieving a little now in big spots.

    So what? it's not about individual #s, it's about making plays. you know how they got to that SB?

    Peyton didn't do much in his SB win either by the way.

    I love when people run out info then have to start hurling childish insults.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    It absolutely is.
     
  19. kevmvp

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    Once again thats all just your opinion. I can say that about any team that had a bad record in any year. They were no good because Peyton wasn't the centerpiece of that team that year. Peyton gets that team to 12 wins no problem, most likely. They won 11 games the next year with a soft schedule after adding arguably the best QB prospect to come out of college since Peyton Manning.

    And that team went 7-4 with Tebow by getting a ton of breaks. Key fumbles, long field goals. They were not a good team.
     
  20. Trip McNealy

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    Well their records and numbers would prove otherwise. But if its in your head it's true I guess.
     

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