I never mentioned anything about Holmes doing anything publicly. You can be a dick off the field, there are going to be great players that do that. Holmes was a dick ON THE FIELD - he did not justify the contract he received. So I did not dodge his question - Holmes is a worthless turd on the Jets. This is about Holmes and his character issues.
Well, Decker didn't do squat in the Superbowl. Tate did something. Tate will cost more. We should go with Decker, his value is down.
You see what happened when Eric Decker gets defended by a top corner? And you guys expect him to be our #1? Come on. He is one of the biggest products I have ever seen.
Eric Decker is a 2nd receiver at best. We need to go after Maclin who is a capable number 1 receiver.
That is correct. The Jets more than likely will go into next season without a true #1 WR (Maybe one gets this role later in the season by production). That won't stop us from having 2 #2 WRs out there. We need at least 2 quality WRs via FA / Draft. Pair Maclin up with Jordan Matthews from the draft Maybe you prefer Decker and Mike Evans? Tate and Odell Beckham Jr.? Possibilities are endless - I like the idea of a VET / drafted WR tandem as our starters with Kerley in the slot and Nelson getting solid reps. I think you remove Stephen Hill from the team and draft Brandon Coleman from Rutgers. Lots of moves the Jets can make ...
he broke out w/ Tebow throwing passes to him. No one did anything besides Thomas on dumpoffs, Decker would be a HUGE upgrade for us. I wouldn't overpay but I'd want him at a reasonable #. We don't even have a #2 WR and we are complaining he isn't a #1? we have a good slot guy and some good depth guys.
what even is a #1 WR in everybody's eyes? is it just a guy that gets more than 1000 yards receiving? I feel like theres some really arbitrary thing others are looking at to determine that qualifier, for me its just the best WR, which he would be if he joined the jets no matter who else is brought in.
I'd be stunned if Decker doesn't get more money than Golden Tate, quite a bit more! That said, Decker will be looking to get paid like a #1 receiver, and he isn't.
Yes, the Jets can improve the WR corps in quite a few number of ways, and that's both a blessing and a curse. I agree that the Jets definitely need to add a veteran WR to the mix. Not all rookie WRs can step in and consistently produce at a high level immediately. While I'm not a big believe in Hill (I never wanted him because of his bad hands), I think the Jets have to give him one more TC if not season. They have to try to get something out of him. If he shows nothing in OTCs and TC, fine, dump his butt, but they need to try to get something out of him in 2014, because even with 12 picks and cap space, they just have too many other needs to sign 2 FA WRs or draft 3 WRs. I do think they need to be smart with their blending of WRs and not get two who are practically identical in their abilities. It's ok if they're all tall and big, but they need someone who can stretch the field, who is explosive and they also need someone who is tough, unafraid to go over the middle, who will come back for passes and/or high point them and snatch the ball out of the air with his hands. They need someone who is adept at finding holes in zone Ds. They need good route runners who can create separation at least with their bodies, if not with their speed, quickness and elusiveness.
IMO a prototype #1 WR is one who is not only the "best" WR on the team, meaning he has the best hands, runs the best routes, has the best ability to create separation and get open, who is tough and not afraid to go over the middle, and who also is consistent/dependable. He comes back for the ball, he high points it, snatching it out of the air. Generally, I want my #1 WR to be at least 6', and preferably 6'3 or better. While he doesn't have to have blazing speed, I think he has to have enough to be a deep threat to be a true #1 WR.
If he goes to NE and you get Edelman back along w/ a healthy Gronk we will see the Pats breaking records next year.
I hope the Jets draft a WR to compete with Stephen Hill - that will give Hill the TC to show marginal improvement, or he's cut from the team. The kid can't play ST so he doesn't have a role on this team. A WR like Brandon Coleman from Rutgers (who will be available late) could push Stephen Hill off the depth chart. Oh I agree, you can't have 3 guys out there with the same skill-set. Each needs to bring something to the table. Maclin and Jordan Matthews would be a great example of blending WRs. Maclin, the explosive wide receiver that can go vertical and Matthews the physical wide receiver that will go over the middle.
Complaining that he isn't a #1 because in this WR market, you're going to have to pay him like he's a #1. So much talent in the draft, not to mention much cheaper price tags. I don't get why anyone wants to sign any big name FA WR. Some guys with higher ceilings than what we'd have to pay full price for with Nicks, Decker, Tate, etc.
Idzik is hard to judge but I don't think he is the type to make big, splashy moves but if we can get him at the right price I think we'd do it. I expect we will address it in the draft and lower level FAs.
I don't think he is the type either. Honestly, I think that's a good thing. I don't see Decker making any kind of salary-friendly deal with a team. Free agency is about being available to all 32 teams, so in most situations, the highest price will get the job done. I think the Broncos would (and should) give more than the Jets would and should be willing to offer. If he's going to overspend, I want it to be on more impactful positions. I preached this when we were looking to deal Revis, and that's that these players don't control the game the way the current rules are set up. With the current setup, you need a QB, you need to protect the QB, and you need to get to the QB. Therefore, QB, OL, and pass rush are, at least in my opinion, the key areas to focus on, especially in free agency if you're going to be spending big bucks. QB becomes a moot point past Vick (which I can see the enticement, but he'd be a stop gap at best, so I wouldn't want to break the bank for him at all). You either draft one if you're comfortable with a guy being better than Geno coming into the draft, or you grab one late and roll with Geno (let's table the Sanchez talk, because whether you like him or not, I'd say the odds are that he's gone). OL I'm not even going to pretend I know who we should grab, but I don't think there's any guys out there to go crazy about. I'd entertain the idea of getting Incognito after it seems that the whole episode was really much ado about nothing. Hell, let's reunite the "best friends" of Incognito and Martin. Seems like a great plan. But really, I'm sure there's a guy or two in FA that could help us shore up what seemed like an at times old and slow line last year. Pass rush, I'd like to target Worilds. I think Orakpo would cost too much and I think we've seen his best come and go. If we're going to spend, I want to see up and comers. Outside of that, I'd like to see us grab a WR or 2 (Lee, Matthews, Beckham, Landry, Cooks, etc. They all have their pluses and minuses), and a TE (preferably Ebron). I just don't think spending money on weapons pans out very often. I can't think of the last time that it did really outside of re-upping with a guy that has worked out for your own team in the past. Though I am probably just blanking at the moment on that one. WRs and TEs are just too much a product of QB play in my opinion to warrant spending market value on.
