Yes, seriously. Killing a person because you're completely irresponsible is much worse than killing dogs. Either way you're a dirtbag, but again, I don't watch the Jets because I think the team is filled with good guys.
No you're saying that if someone was running a fighting club and the owners killed them because they lost is worst than killing a guy waking down the street because the guy on the street had the option to run away.
"the FBI has found that a history of cruelty to animals is one of the traits that regularly appear in its computer records of serial rapists and murderers, and the standard diagnostic and treatment manual for psychiatric and emotional disorders lists cruelty to animals as a diagnostic criterion for conduct disorders."
In a really f'ed up way, Yes. If that fighter was held captive and being forced to fight his entire life without ever being given an option to do anything else, And then was killed the second that he didn't do that job well enough for his "owner". That person who owned that fighter would have to be more of a mentally messed up individual then the guy who had just randomly picked off a guy walking down the street because he wanted to kill something.
Smith is not significantly better than Simms but he is better. Simms is not as good as some of you all think. Backup QB IS his ceiling and that's okay. Geno has more upside and a higher ceiling. It's up to him to put it together. Geno needs the reps in order to develop and further learn the system. The Jets need better play than what Geno gave us last year. However we were coming off a rebuilding year so it's counterproductive to give up on Geno before we see enough from him. We just need a vet that doesn't really need as much reps but can also step in if necessary. Vick fits that role to a tee. He knows MM's system and he's a vet.
And I'm saying that murder/killing is the same regardless of circumstance. At least based on what we're arguing. Deers aren't mans best friend so who cares right? But killing dogs is like world war 3.
What's your point? Did Vick rape or murder a person? No. Did Mark Sanchez rape a girl? Maybe. http://deadspin.com/5739780/why-no-one-remembers-the-mark-sanchez-rape-case
If he beat the deer, held captive, and abused it throughout it's entire life and then pit it up against other deer in fights to the death, and then tortured the deer some more when it lost ( eventually killing it ) we'd be having a different conversation Walking out into the woods and shooting a deer is nothing like caging, torturing, beating up, and fighting other deer to the death for your own amusement. Some people who go out and hunt out of necessity actually eat the animal ( I know there are some that just hunt for "sport" and I think that's equally wrong ). I'm sure there are people in some cultures who hunt wild dog for food and sustenance and I have no problem with that.
Hunting to eat is different especially in certain parts of the world. I said in the beginning "big game hunters".
I guess I didn't take that as "sport" hunting. People do still hunt big game out of necessity in certain parts of the world.
This is good to hear. Clearly an upgrade over anyone the Jets currently have. If Geno out performs him then good. If not, they can go with Vick if they sign him. No complaints from me.
Not interested in Vick because he's too fragile. Going into 2014 season, the Jets have big question marks at both OG this season. If Austin Howard doesn't come back, then this OL could be bad enough to sink the whole season. Combined those OL issues with Vick's health the last few years & we could get a repeat of 2013. Where Geno goes through a really bad stretch and there's nobody healthy enough to come in and take over the starting QB gig. If Vick started game 1, I've got serious doubts he would last till game 10.
You actually can't say Smith is better because Simms wasn't given a chance like Tebow. Rex plays the favoritism card.
Vick is 100% certain to get hurt, and he wouldn't come cheap. Animal torturing scumbag psychopath aside, the guy would be terrible for the Jets as a football team. It doesn't matter who we rotate in at QB right now, our focus should be getting some offensive weapons for whoever ends up being the QB.
He's too much of a liability. He has never played a full season. These days he can't even take a hit and I believe our OLine gave up the second most sacks in the league.
Obviously they need to bring in weapons. Bringing in a QB isn't mutually exclusive with that. What would be oh so terrible about having Vick for the Jets? I'd say it worked out pretty well for the Eagles last year and from all accounts it sounds like he was a fantastic teammate for Foles. Somehow it wasn't terrible for the Eagles as a football team. I for one think Geno could benefit from watching a vet from the sidelines for a while. When Vick gets injured he can hopefully take advantage.
The Tebow talk needs to go away. He's a nice guy but this is a QB-centric league and has been for awhile and several decent organizations have looked at him and decided he wasn't worth keeping at QB. That doesn't happen for any reason other than you can't play QB. It'd be nice if Tim Tebow managed to change that fact and got an opportunity somewhere but we've been hearing that he needs to change his mechanics since he was a Gator and he just hasn't managed to do that. The Tim Tebow who was scatter-armed in camp for the Jets in 2012 didn't look any different than the guy who was playing for the Gators in 2009. The only difference between the two of them is you can't get away with that in the NFL.
