I think this Den team is better than Indy '09(at least on offense) but it does remind me a lot of that year where all the articles before the game were how Manning was now the greatest and how this was a coronation then of course he threw away the SB which people forget about and now he's going to be the greatest again.
I feel the same way, last year I was anti-49ers so I enjoyed their demise. The Giants-Patriots Super Bowls were like opposite, I wanted neither t win. The years the Saints and Packers won I was happy because I didnt want to see the Colts and Steelers win(they had previously beat us).
there is nothing to even remotely criticize what I said. if Sanchez could have developed he would have been worth having more in the long term than Peyton in the short term. I didn't predict he would, I simply presented a hypothetical that could validate keeping Sanchez. Sanchez actually developing or not is irrelevant to the validity of the hypothetical based on if it did happen. the fact that you don't even grasp that and are attempting to criticize it only validates any criticism of you. actually, it is far less flattering than your belief that I have a vendetta against you. I read posts first before even noticing who is the poster. if your posts are continuously making ridiculous claims that draw my attention, that is a condemnation of your posts, not any indicator that I have something against you. like attempting to claim you are some predictive genius because you predicted something wouldn't happen that rarely does happen -- teams repeating. yeah, that's hard to do. also, there was nothing genius about picking a Denver/Seattle Super Bowl -- Denver was the favorite to in the SB before the season, and Seattle third. it isn't as if doing so was like predicting the '99 Rams. http://nfl.si.com/2013/09/03/super-bowl-xlviii-odds-san-francisco-49ers-denver-broncos/ way to go out on a limb there, Nostradumass.
Not sure I think its a great idea that Seattle is trying to get Harvin a major piece of the game plan, given how little he's played.
Gotta love how everyone made such a big deal about the weather, its starting to look like we will be getting a GREAT day for football standards. A low of 28 degrees? a high of 44? Perfect.
Once the cheatriots were put out of the playoffs, I was happy. I would like to see Peyton get another ring though. Go Denver.
This game to me is a bigger step up in class for Denver than people think. Everyone focuses on the QB/WR glamour positions, but the reality is, Seattle is a very strong team across the board. Line up the Chargers and Pats rosters that Denver just played with Seattle and to me it is no comparison. The Seahawks are significantly better than those teams at many positions. Also, the Broncos have not had much experience in facing a player like Wilson, Rivers and Brady were very immobile and stationary targets. Also consider that Denver is not any sort of step up from what Seattle has faced in the playoffs. Peyton is a better passer, granted, but is he that much better than a Brees who threw 40 TDs this season? Drew could do almost nothing against Seattle in both games, and arguably never did anything in either game until garbage time. The Niners D is without question better than the Broncos D and for my money, the Saints D was slightly better too. I think this is the first game in a while where the Seahawks might think they can get a ton accomplished on offense (don't forget they drew Cards and Rams last 2 regular season games too). I would be surprised if the Broncos win this game. I also suspect Fox will do something ridiculously conservative or stupid at some point which will significantly hinder his team's chances. Also, Peyton will throw 1-2 INTs in this game and he won't be a worse QB from it. He's facing a historically great pass D that is causing turnovers from opposing QBs at an almost unheard of rate. With how much Denver throws the ball and Manning not exactly having a cannon, the elements are in place for him to have a multi-turnover game. I really could see Peyton end up with something like 28-46, 280 yards, 3 TDs, 2 INTs. I think Seattle probably wins 30-21 or something like that. For those who think they are incapable of putting up 30 points, go look back at their schedule and they have put up over 30 against a better D than the Broncos on more than one occasion. Also, I am certain if what I predicted comes true, the narrative will be that "Peyton choked" or something similarly silly when that type of game would have been considered very good against the Seahawks this season in comparison to other QBs who faced them. If you put a gun to Peyton's head, he's probably wondering why he couldn't have drawn a mediocre Pats D like his brother Eli did twice in the SB. Football is a funny sport as we know....
You say it's not a step up for the Seahawks but what team have they played with a receiving corps as good and with as much size as the Broncos? This game also isn't in Seattle, so their will be no 12th man making pre snap adjustments and play calling more difficult for the opposing team.
I think the 49ers recieving corp is nearly as talented. I think though, the Denver recievers will be in more of a shock because I dont think they have seen anything comparable to Seattles secondary while Seattle's secondary has gone up against the Saints recievers and 49ers. It does go both ways though, but I think Seattle has dealt with great receivers while the Broncos recievers have yet to see a secondary this good.
It's not a step up in terms of overall opponent quality. It is the best passing attack they have faced all year, but they also faced the Saints twice and if there was one passing attack you could compare to Denver, it was New Orleans (I'd also throw GB in there with a healthy Rodgers, but they didn't play them). However, Denver is worse on D than in my opinion the last 4 Seahawks opponents, and probably considerably worse talent-wise than the Niners. I think the key matchup besides Denver's WRs v. Seattle's secondary will be the Broncos front 7 against the Seahawks o-line. Denver has to win that matchup, and maybe even big. They're just not good enough in the back end to prevent big plays if Wilson has time to move and scramble around. Also, we know what happens when Lynch breaks 100 yards, the Seahawks almost always win. Denver cannot allow him to dictate the game under any circumstances. Their strength on D is their rush D. Also, for as great as Peyton has been this year, I think QBs like Kaep and Rodgers are tougher matchups for Seattle's D because they can really rifle the ball in there as well as break the pocket and cause trouble. I think Seattle's athleticism and aggression on the back end gives them a slight edge over QBs like Peyton and Brees, who just don't have the biggest arms. I could be wrong though and I am not underestimating Peyton's ability to take any D apart. I just think it's the worst possible matchup he could have drawn.
This is an all time great secondary from what I understand. Anyone care to rank where this Broncos WR corp is based on talent? (Have only been watching NFL for a decade)
You hit on the nail, its not about the secondary vs the WRs, its about the Broncos O line holding up against the pass rush. If Seattle needs to send 6-7 guys to get pressure, they will be in trouble.
I don't think Seattle is going to blitz much unless Manning is really picking them apart, and even then not a ton because I'm sure they think they can make plays in the secondary on balls he throws that float a bit. They're really good at intercepting the ball and I think they'd rather leave extra guys back there to do that. Another interesting thing to watch is if Broncos offense faces early adversity. They've really been frontrunners this season and generally get out to great starts on offense. What if they go 3 and out a couple times or Manning throws an early pick? Do they start to press? Seattle has shown they can weather early offensive struggles and it does not impact them much.
Hard to think of many passing offenses that had someone as good as Welker at the #3. A couple great WR corps that come to mind are the 99 Rams, 2001 Rams, 2007 Pats. The 2001 Rams and 2007 Pats WRs were shut down in the SB though by lesser Ds than the Seahawks.
I wouldn't put the '07 pats up there, they had an all time great #1 but after that it wasn't great. Welker is very overrated, he'll catch a million dumpoffs. As a #3 he's great but as a #1/2 like he was in NE that's not great. late 90s/early 00s Rams Minnesota w/ Carter/Moss and Jake Reed Indy w/ Harrison, Wayne and Co. the early 90s Oilers 80s Chargers not many
Welker was a slot receiver though. It's hard to compare him to those that played the outside. It's essentially a different position.
I agree on Indy with Harrison and Wayne, I shouldn't have left them out. Good call on Minnesota too and the other choices. Hard to ignore Welker's career body of work. I don't think he deserves the HoF or anything, but his career numbers are going to end up looking quite impressive. Also, we know everything fell apart for him personally and professionally shortly after that, but Stallworth was really good in 2007. He was killer as a #3.
LOL and your the person who said having Sanchez for 10 years is better than Manning for 4. Your calling me the dumb ass? Seriously get over yourself, you have an ego and look to attack others and make yourself look like you are perfect. You have been doing it for years, but go ahead and continue to verbally attack me...
