Maybe you weren't born in the late 70s early 80s so do some research on "Pittsburgh" and "cocaine". I'm sure a lot of college athletes were doing coke, but Pittsburgh was the center of cocaine abuse in sports during Marino's 4 years there. It's actually pretty infamous. When a rumor is started about a potential draft pick using cocaine, that sends off a warning signs. When that athlete was playing in Pittsburgh in the late 70s and early 80s it sends off the loudest warning sirens imaginable. I saw him play live twice against Syracuse and he was the best college QB I've ever seen live. Better than Jim Kelly, Major Harris, Turner Gill, McNabb, Boomer Esiason, Flutie, Geno, all of them. What are you going on about?!? You're confusing yourself. Who said anything about Luck or Elway? Manziel is a MUCH better player than Bradford and will be a much better pro. Bradford has proven one thing, that he's a china doll. _
Oh stop. Look, it's not that big of a deal, but at least let's be truthful if we're going to have an honest discussion. _
I know i don't hate sanchez, i just think he's nothing irreplaceable and not worth further time to develop. he's uncomfortably wedged between a jag and a legit starter, and while i'm sure his age and playoff experience will warrant him a spot as the best FA QB out there for other teams, he's got no real value left for the jets purposes. form an organizational standpoint theres no need to see what he has anymore. Its Smiths turn to improve or be replaced, Sanchez had his last year, if he had done enough there would be no question as to who was the starter in 2013 or 2014.
I never denied that Marino wasn't using drugs. My main point was about attitude and depending on the year it could cost you to slip. Smh at having to explain my post about Manziel. He is not the can't miss prospect that Elway/Peyton/Luck were. Which means that I'm not gonna declare an unproven non can't miss prospect like Manziel, better than a guy like Bradford that has proven himself capable of playing at the NFL level. Bradford proving himself as a "china doll" is more than Manziel can say for himself thus far. Btw what is it with you and the '14 draft? You're always overrating these QB's. Besides Bridgewater none of these guys are any better than the prospects from the '13 draft.
Teddy's an unproven college QB and he's better than Bradford, you'd admit that I would assume. We'll so is Manziel. Bradford can not stay healthy and even when healthy he's not that good. If I'm the Rams I'd much rather build around one of these guys coming out this year and you give Manziel some if the talent on the Rams and he'll be a player right off the bat. And the reason I'm high on the 2014 class is because it's solid and deep and blows away 2013. There are 5-6 guys better than anyone in last years class. Notwithstanding Geno, last years class was weak. Manuel? Glennon? Mediocre. And after that total crap. Barkley is awful and Wilson got cut before the drain started. Tyler Bray folks were talking about drafting in the fourth round and he went in drafted. _
There is a big difference between Mark and Russell Wilson. And it's not in terms of athletic ability. Wilson is not a great Qb and his skills are not that good. As an athlete he played pro baseball and never got above single A and hit around .220. But he can lead a team because he doesn't make too many mistakes. He doesn't throw the ball into coverage, can read a defense and when needed uses his legs. Could Mark have been this type of player. Maybe. But instead Mark crumbles under pressure makes ridiculous throws, is outsmarted by defenders (who laughed about how easy he was to fake out after games and rarely runs with the ball to make a play. The thing is Mark can run effectively. I've seen him do it. He doesn't have great speed (either does Wilson, Geno does) but Mark has the ability to run as a Qb and get positive yardage. While Wilson wins games Mark loses them. He has to go into a strict system with a run first offense and with orders not to throw the ball into traffic ever. I wouldn't even let him throw it when in the red zone. It's too crowded inside the 20 and he can't thread the needle esp when the D is on his ass. Can Mark change? He showed last pre-season that he can't.
Ah him not so sure there. I think he has a very good arm and is a very instinctual runner that doesn't take unnecessary hits. However his football IQ is off the charts and he's an incredible leader. People said he owned that team the very first day he stepped into the facility. I think he's a very very good QB and will be a top 10 QB for years. He's pretty damn skilled. _
I wouldn't say Teddy is better either. He has a higher ceiling for sure. Manziel reminds me of another Colt McCoy, only smaller. Bradford was a much higher touted prospect than Manziel. The last time I felt good about a draft class was '12. None of these guys outside of Bridgewater really does it for me.
Manziel reminds me of a less controlled Russel Wilson. If am trying to win now, I'm taking Bradford over Bridgewater and Manziel. There is no substitute for NFL starting experience.
Hey Bro, do you work for Fox News or somebody. You only quote one small part of a post and that's the second time you did it tonight. I really don't care but I didn't say that Wilson wasn't that good. There was more than that but you only quote the part you want to. I guess that's to make you look good and me look bad. Check Wilson's stats anyways the second half of the year. He wasn't the straw that stirred the drink in Seattle.
Sam Bradford is massively underrated and I still think he can be a very good QB in this league if he stays healthy. First of all, the guy has had LESS talent to work with than Sanchez. Let's keep that in mind. Also, let's keep in mind, Zac Stacy didn't really break out this year until Bradford was hurt - if they had both gotten to play together for longer, I think Bradford would've ended up with a very good year. And again, who's his #1 receiver? 58.6% completion, 59 TD, 38 INT. Doesn't sound like bust #s to me. Now, do I think he's a Top 5 QB? No - but his weakness, which is not taking big risks and always taking the easy throw, would play right into the Jets hands. The Jets need a QB like Bradford - to, me is a better version of Alex Smith. I would love to have him as our backup or competition to Geno if he's released.
One of the common mental defects among Sanchez lovers is the failure to understand basic concepts. Just because someone thinks that Sanchez totally sucks and that he shouldn't be on the Jets doesn't mean they hate him as an individual. Anyone with a tiny shred of intelligence, impartiality, and understanding of football knows that Muck is a worthless football player. As one of these people, I never want to see Muck in a Jets uniform. Nothing would make me happier then the Patriots signing Muck to a 15 year, $150 million guaranteed contract. I would party for days. Hookers and coke dealers in the tri-state area would talk about the profits for decades.
The biggest mistake people are having is that they believe that the Jets will someone find a franchise QB in 2014. That isn't happening. The best that this team can hope for is that Geno Smith develops in many areas and that the person that is challenging him camp for the starting job has the ability to play at a higher level than Geno. If you look at the list of available veteran backup QBs on the market and you look at Sanchez you have to consider re-working his deal the easiest and safest option. He has playoff experience, has played the Pats very well, should have 1 more win against them if not for a wide open Stephen Hill drop, and he is already under contract. Sanchez would be playing for his career - plain and simple -- that is an incredible motivator for a 27 year old QB that believes he should be starting. Better than a career backup coming in to hold a clip board.
there you go again, if he's not injured we win the SB but why couldn't he win in '07 or '09 w/ more talented teams when he wasn't injured? How come he only won one SB playing almost 20 years w/ more talented teams? Surely he wasn't injured every year besides 1996, right? if you think the September version of the Cards were the same version as the January version I can't help you. You aren't winning 2 road playoff games a year for 2 straight years w/ poor QB play. Those #s tell us nothing w/o context. since you only post about me I assume you will follow me? Mark is better than Sachaub, Schaub has had MUCH better teams around him and has 1 playoff win and zero title game apps. Brian didn't hold him back, he was developing very nicely under Brian. Brian was the scapegoat when the team failed to end the 2011 season. No he isn't, Bradford has better physical tools than Sanchez but has yet to develop.
Again with this childishness? When the phrase "hate" is used on the internet about a player--it doesn't mean hatred of the PERSON it means hatred of the PLAYER (although I'm pretty sure a few folks here truly hate the person). When 80% of your posts on a football message board involves some version of "player X is dogshit, sucks, is worthless" and you make up cute nicknames like Muck or buttfumble or suckchez, that means you hate the PLAYER, not the PERSON. One of the common mental defects of an internet hater is the failure to understand basic concepts. _
