That 94 season placed a very dark cloud over this franchise..one that took about 5 years & 2 regime changes to clean up.
Nice reading all the stories. When this was going down the only thing I was watching was power rangers... Sent from my LG-LS720 using Tapatalk
I'll never forget the FRONT page of the NY Post......picture of Carroll...and Kotite...and Steve Serby's column entitled: "Dumb....and Dumber" !!!
I loved Pete as a DC and he was highly thought of around the league. I think one of the reasons we fired Coslet was b/c they were afraid of losing Carroll to another team. as great a job as BP did as a coach he did a terrible job as a GM(at least w/ the draft). Think of how close we were to Peyton or Brady being Jets. If BP guarantees the Mannings he takes him #1 in 1997 Peyton comes out and is a Jet but BP was in it for the short term and rookie QBs weren't winning then the way they do now. BP also cost us BB, if BB stayed on as HC I assume he ahs the same staff in place and we draft Brady instead of NE. It wasn't that bad. he lost his last 7 in Philly, he was 11-17 in his last 28.
I never bought Hess Gas as my protest against him. When I tried to launch a NYJ fan boycott of Hess Gas I was laughed at ny the NYJ fans entering the stadium for a game. Maybe now as they have matured & if they can remember back they nay regret doing what I had suggested which was boycott Hess Gas :sad:
I had a few buddies who were Eagles fans when this happened. I remember them telling me in no uncertain terms that the Eagles flat out gave up and quit on Kotite at the end. I remember thinking, "Why the hell are we snatching up a coach whose team just fell apart and quit on him?" I was more pissed when Leon acted like we grabbed Vince Lombardi at the presser. UGH!!!
What future success are U referring to since as of this posting we have still had zero success or do U know something in NYJ history that I have missed? :sad:
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/01/06/s...fills-up-the-jets-empty-tank-with-kotite.html and people think it's been hard being a Jet fans in recent years.
Damn, I still remember how stupid this hiring seemed at the time. That Eagles team Kotite took over had one of the strongest defenses I've ever seen. There's teams that win SB with lesser defenses and this was before the salary cap era. Idiot Kotite went on a losing streak in his last season and got fired. It was obvious to EVERYBODY that Philly team was underachieving in a major way under Kotite & he had no damn clue what he was doing. Fucking, Incompetent Hess hires Kotite and gives him total control of the franchise. That hire made no fucking sense to anyone. Everyone knew the Jets were fucked but nobody could have predicted he would FAIL that badly. This was Matt Millen-level failure. Pissed me off how he always had that bullshit press conferences post-game where he'd emphasize how hard everybody played too. I didn't give a fuck about the effort anymore, just win a game already. The Jets were so lucky they ran into a shit-Cardinals team towards the end of the season or they would've been the first 0-16 team in NFL history. Woody priced out a lot of real fans with the PSL but thank goodness he's not a total incompetent loser like Hess. Under Woody, the Jets have never reached that Kotite level of hopelessness. Even if Rex wins a SB, Parcells will always get major props from me for washing off what seemed like a permanent stench when Kotite passed through. === Although I was undecided on Carroll @ the time, I sure as hell knew one season wasn't enough to pass judgement. Especially to bring in a proven loser like Kotite. Carroll had some moments of WTF as a coordinator (like giving the choke sign on camera). However, the D performed alright under him and he definitely did enough to justify a second season. Although the bond between Carroll and the Jets has been broken so many years ago, I still feel some happiness watching him succeed over in Seattle. His upbeat, positive attitude was mocked during his first HC gig but he's kept that personality and now he's winning his way.
I looked it up, he went 11-48 as a head coch over his final 3 years. If you combine his last 7 games in Philly which he lost and the 28 games with the Jets he lost he went 4-35 over his last 39 games as a head coach. The bizarre thing was Philly was 7-2 before losing 7 ina row to end the season.
I loved Pete Carroll as coach of the Jets and was pissed when they gave up on him after one year in order to get Rich effing Kotite. Then 3-13. Then the big contract to Neil O'Donnell who everyone knew wasn't all that good and was getting overpaid because he was in the Super Bowl. Then 1-15. Bad decision after bad decision and 4 wins in 2 years. Not even decisions that just turned out bad, just shit that everyone knew was a bad idea immediately. That was absolutely the lowest of the low of my Jets fandom. Fuck Pete Carroll now, though. He walked out on USC just as the shit was about to hit the fan. Weasel.
I remember that and I even remember the look of shock on the B&W photo of Carroll and the 'cat who ate the canary' grin on the B&W photo of Kotite.....funny editors over there at the NY Post. Several years after Kotite was fired/resigned from the Jets he appeared in a couple of commericals. In one he was an agent for a college football player. I don't remember the point or the sponser of the commercial but it ended with the player saying or doing something silly and Kotite staring at him with that same deer in the headlights look he had when coaching.......classic. Does anybody else remember Kotite doing commericals??
The negative on his happy go personality should go to the New York media. Anytime ownership makes certain decisions you'll have a number of media pundits writing articles justifying the decision. I thought it was a bad move to get rid of Pete Carroll as well, because it was only one season.
Well it took kotite no time to flash his GM skills in the 95 draft....."we want Sapp", "we want Sapp"...... The hell u do, you'll have Brady. Right up there with many other historical draft blunders.
I watched many a practice at Hofstra in 95 and I recall many of the offensive drills the RB's and WR's were doing were right out of the pee wee football play book. It was comical to watch. Many of us new we were in for an interesting season. At least chrebet excelled.
You had him at 11-48 over his final 48 games (3 years). Kotite was 11-37 over his final three seasons. He was 3-25 in his last 28 games with the Jets. He finished 11-17 with the Eagles and finished 0-7 with the Jets. In between he went 4-21 with the Jets. 1994 Eagles 7-9 1995 Jets 3-13 1996 Jets 1-15
It was a going from low to lowest moment in Jets history.. irony of it was Hess stating he was ready to win now, as justification of firing Carroll, who had just lost 5 in a row to close out season. Then he hires Kotitie, who was fired from Philly for losing 7 straight to close out season! How the hell does that make sense in any way? And Hess was all fired up about it! was really challenging to be a fan in the mid 90's. definitely the rock bottom point in the near 4 decades I've been watching. I remember being in college up in Albany, and the Jets were so bad they stopped airing them mid season, and would put on Buffalo or NE games instead. That's how pathetic the team was under Kotite. And was the only time i can remember not caring that i couldn't even watch the games.
One of the worst mistakes Hess made when he gave up on Carroll too soon. Luckily I was very young and was very lucky to miss the Kotite era (The 1st time I watched football was in 98). As you heard of the phrase, "Everything happens for a reason". In this case it was true because had Carroll stayed in 1995, the Jets wouldn't have hired Parcells in 1997 to turn the franchise around.
