I'm not going to throw Tim under the bus and say he can't throw. That's what some of his detractors say. Guys like Merrill Hoge who doesn't even want to give the guy a chance. He was a 10th round draft pick who could have easliy been cut but he was given a chance and had a decent career. I'm not against Timmy and I'm not for him. But he deserves a shot just based on his college career plus his success in the NFL. Belichick gave him an opportunity but he had little chance to make the team. Because the Patriots held onto Mallett instead of dealing him to the Browns.
Lol I knew TannenBUM was spewing bullshit when asked the Tebow question on Reddit. "Tebow was a replacement for Brad Smith", he said. Fawkin douche.
What Tebow did in college did not translate into becoming a nfl qb. As marketer myself, he was a marketers wet dream. He was here to sell jerseys and merchandise.
yes those late round pick rookies would have stepped in and led us to the playoffs. we were an awful team with an awful qb, no skill players and no run game.
Because Tebow literally couldn't play the position at an NFL level. Sanchez was bad but at least he was an NFL QB.
I'm not sure anyone can say that Tim can't play as a Qb in the NFL. He had enough starts and Ws plus a playoff win against the Steelers that he should at least be able to get a tryout for another team. But with all the injuries this season and the openings for Qbs he wasn't even called by a team to compete (from what we've been told). I think he's being blackballed. PS You can say that Denver won in spite of him but as the starting Qb you have to give him credit for those Ws, just like you do with Mark on the Jets. And Trent Dilfer with the Ravens. As for his time with the Jets they just didn't let him play. And when he did play even though they wouldn't let him throw the ball (Sparano gave him exactly 8 pass attempts for the entire season. Now come on. How could any Qb be successful if you don't let him even throw a pass) he had some success. Not much but considering the limited playbook with him some first downs.
What? He's simply not a good QB. Just because the team wins games doesn't make the QB good. John Elway, one of the greatest QB's of all time understood that. It's the same thing with Sanchez (although he is far better then Tebow). Just because the Jets won games in 09 and 2010, doesnt make Mark automatically a good player.
I'm not saying he's good. But no tryout even when they're signing guys who haven't done anything in professional football. A Qb like Scott Tolzien starts games for the Packers and Tim can't even get a look see by anyone. At least give the guy a chance. And a Qb should get credit (like a starting pitcher in baseball) if his team wins even if he wasn't very good. He was good enough to keep his team in a game and win it. Remember the Jets L against Denver in 2011 when Tim who was statistically having a very poor game against the Jets D put an 80 yard drive together and ran the ball in himself 20 yards to beat us. And basically knock us out of the playoffs. Not bad for a terrible player.
I guess having a great defense had nothing to do with that. Also how many times did Mark make a good passing play only to be yanked then watch Tebow go up the middle in a pile of dust for two downs then have pass on 3rd and forever? Plus Tebow had offensive coordinator who designed plays around his strengths. Mark never had that.
He had his chance and also comes with a lot of crap for someone who is just not a good nfl quarterback.
Actually when he got a chance to play he had production. ie his team went to the playoffs. You can't not give him any credit for that. You can't not give Mark any credit for it even though he had a good defense, too. They were starting Qbs on a winning team. IMO Tim has never played as horribly as Mark did in 2011 and 2012. But they both deserve a chance to make another team. Why all the haters on Tim I don't know. All I'm saying is he deserves a chance. Not that he should be given a job anywhere. Not sure about all of the Tebowmania baggage. It could have gone even deeper than just having fans bug them about starting Tim. But last season he seems to have tried to distance himself from it. But who knows.
Tim Tebow is not a professional NFL QB, he's just not. He does not "deserve" anything, he's getting exactly what he deserves. He "won" a game completing TWO passes, that is not a function of Tebow winning a game. He won 4 games completing less than 50% of his passes. He won games because of his kicker hitting miracle kicks and his D playing stifling defense. JMHO. _
tebow can't be relied upon to run most NFL offensive systems and brings a larger media headache in his wake than is necessary for a backup. thats why he doesn't have a job, not so much being blackballed as being an unreliable infamous entity. Brady Quinn is a bust and still gets jobs, because he doesn't bring a distraction to the locker room. while his starting experience should theoretically warrant a third string job somewhere or something the fact that he doesn't have the depth to run much beyond a spread kills his case. hes a weird case, but thats how it is.
I don't agree that he's not a professional Qb. But I don't say he's going to be a good one, either. I do say he deserves a chance to at least try out for a team. If they don't like what they see then cut him. Any player with his credentials does deserve a chance. Even Mark.
He has now had chances with three teams. Each of those teams has a staff trained and experienced to evaluate talent and paid tens of millions of dollars each year. Add to that the staff of every other team that they have played and who have watched film of Tebow at practice - nobody wants him! Every team in the NFL has the exact same goal - to make as much money as possible. The way to make money is to win as many games as possible. Don't you really think that the hundreds of millions of dollars spent on evaluating talent would have gotten Tebow a job if he really "deserved" it by being considered valuable in winning games and making money? Why would they possibly want to "blackball" a guy who could bring in the bucks?
I think the fact that he didn't get a sniff this year after getting cut by the Pats shows he's doing exactly what he should be doing and that's not playing QB in the NFL. _
why does tebow deserve anything? cause hes a catholic schoolboy? i just dont get why people get all up in arms about how tebow never had a chance when there are tons of qbs who played the same type of game as tebow in college, whom also had success that came to the nfl and didnt get to play qb. just because tim refuses to play another position other than qb doesnt mean he deserves a shot, it means hes too stubborn to get out of his own way. hes a shit qb for the nfl. his stats have proven that. when peyton comes to the same roster and lights the league on fire after tebow could barely complete half of his passes, you have to pull your head out of your ass and admit you were wrong about tebow. i just dont even get why he got as many chances as he did. the fact that no other team wanted to even look at him but the desperate for fans jags should be telling, but now that hes just an afterthought in the league, there are still people bitching about how he didnt get his shot. what more does he need? is he supposed to just be given a team and everyone just hopes he learns how to throw an accurate pass?
He has had a plethora of chances to try out for teams, he had an entire pre-season and training camp to work along side Brady in New England and it did nothing to improve him. After he got his games in, he was cut by the Cheats faster than the time it took to sign his original contract. He cannot throw. He cannot dissect a defense. He cannot make a short pass. He cannot not anything but run guys over on QB draws and the read-option, which means as a quarterback, he is useless.
