Nice WR breakdown

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  1. Duk Dodgers

    Duk Dodgers Active Member

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    I think Baltimore is going to try to bring Pitta back so if we want him it will cost us. With that said if he does end up a NYJ then the focus can completely center around WR's. Ebron does have some concentration issues, he will need to cut down on the dropped passes to realize his potential. Love the instant mismatch he brings to us though, its something we lack right now.
     
  2. NCJetsfan

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    IMO Ebron has great hands, and the problem with the dropped easy passes is just focus, which I think is probably THE easiest thing to correct. I think he will be a stud in the NFL.
     
  3. JetsNation06

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    Don't sleep on Colorado's Paul Richardson. This guy could be a steal in the mid rounds. He's got very good quickness and shiftiness, good hands, and accelerates quickly after the catch. His change of direction without losing speed is very impressive from his tape. Also 6'1. He needs to get in the weight room and add some more muscle but has the athletic frame to do it.
     
  4. laxin

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    I wouldnt realistically expect him to gain more than 15 pounds within a couple of years. He has a slight frame, and if he hasnt put on the weight by age 21, I dont see that changing significantly.
     
  5. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    He doesn't need to put on that much weight, yet 5-10 pounds of muscle is to be expected and very doable. You don't want the kid to lose his biggest asset, his quickness.
     
  6. Br4d

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    Pitta's 29 next year and he was hurt in 2013. That's not the kind of free agent you want to make a commitment too.

    Commit to the 26 year olds when they're out there. Sign the 29 year olds if they're still out there after the free agency wave has passed and only to a short term deal at that point.

    To give you an idea, Pitta is exactly 2 years younger than Kellen Winslow. He's 3 years older than Braylon Edwards was when the Jets traded for him in 2009.

    NFL really does mean Not For Long. 29 is the beginning of the end not the prime of a player's career.
     
  7. laxin

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    Well he's 170. That is VERY slight... Honestly not sure how thats even possible when he's supposed to be working out in a college football weight room. Its a concern for me tbh. He's a solid 3rd-4th round prospect.
     
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  8. laxin

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    At the TE position, age isnt as big of a concern as others, but even when he has been young and healthy he hasnt been anything special. I mean he only has 1200 yards and 11 TDs on his career. He's certainly better than anything we currently have, but he sure as hell wouldnt be my first/ideal target.

    He's a solid player who just had a serious injury and is only getting older. Im not throwing money at him.
     
  9. JetsNation06

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    And Stephen Hill's 215 and plays flimsy. Don't get too caught up on the weight if the kid can play. He's wiry strong and athletic from all the tape. Like I said, he can easily get up to 178-180 in a pro conditioning program. Sure it's a little concern to me but he doesn't play slight on tape. We agree on mid round pick, sounds about right.
     
  10. Br4d

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    The studies that have been done suggest that RB and TE are the two positions that decline in value the earliest, even in successful careers. In both cases you are looking at positions that cannot avoid contact and in which most of the contact is with players who are larger than them.
     
  11. laxin

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    I just feel like its hard to stick at TE which makes this the case- there just isnt a large number of elite TE's in the league. Or maybe we've been spoiled in recent years with players like Jason Witten and Tony Gonzalez playing at elite levels well into their 30's.

    Either way, I think we both agree on the fact that we should stay away from Pitta.
     
  12. JetLifeLo

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    we only look pass Evans because he doesnt have that speed u wanna see out of your number one guy.. and it'll almost be like we have two David Nelsons if we were to draft him ... but that would be scary in the redzone.. 2 6'5 wide outs with little kerley slithering around plus geno's a scrambler and Ivory's a mack truck... i like ittttt our options would be endlessss . (Nelson may not be our number two if we get another guy in free ageny though)
     
  13. laxin

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    There's nothing wrong with his speed. And please dont compare him to David Nelson.
     
  14. Harpua

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    This post is just holy fucking shit horrible.
     
  15. laxin

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    This part made me LOL
     
  16. This is very true.HOWEVER..These are also 2 high impact positions if you have health and/or quality depth. Modern rules really benefit these big athletic TE'S down the seam..and fresh running backs can really change momentum.

    Does it then make sense to stack these positions w/ talent? Be 4 deep at those positions?

    My point being that philosophy may have the Jets more inclined to use early selections on the position.
     
  17. 1968jetsfan

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    There is also always one or two players at every position which go well beyond the expected years at their position because they managed to avoid significant injury or a culmination of minor injuries that turn in to longer injuries. TE's, especially traditional TE's fall in to the high attrition category because they put a lot of tear in to their bodies both receiving and of course blocking which can play hell long term with mobility.
     
  18. NCJetsfan

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    Pitta wouldn't be a long term investment, but rather a stop gap for a year or two. Pitta would give them solid play from the TE position and be insurance in case they don't get one of Ebron, Amaro or Seferian-Jenkins. They could hang with Pitta, Cumby and perhaps Sudfeld in 2014, then look to draft a TE in 2015.
     
  19. NCJetsfan

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    So how would you expect the Jets to address the TE position?

    They need 3 on the roster. They may not be able to get Ebron, Amaro or S-J. Pitta shouldn't be that expensive at his age and coming off of his injury. Pitta would be insurance for a year, perhaps two in case they can't draft one any better. He's better than Pettigrew and would probably cost less. The only other FA TE I'd consider would be Scott Chandler and he's even less special than Pitta.

    If they can't get one of the top 3 TEs, then Pitta, Cumby and maybe Sudfeld or a mid-to-low round TE would be better than with whom they started this last season imo.
     
  20. Br4d

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    What's interesting is that TE's peak earlier than any other position. What you see out of them their second season is often representative of their peak value. They also decline faster than any other position. Season 7 is it for many successful TE's. That's a year earlier than for successful RB's.

    On the point about TE's having unusual wear and tear: TE is the only position on the field that routinely blocks big players and also stretches out to make catches. The combination of responsibilities puts their entire body at risk at one point or another.
     

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