Taken from today's CNN.. http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/09/us/ncaa-athletes-unc-response/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 Junc, what's up? I imagine you would have some insight on this. Just a professor with an axe to grind or is she telling the truth? We all realize that college sports is big money and a lot of times, pays the freight but are they really doing their students a disservice by letting them move on as long as they produce on the field? I heard Jameis Winston's interview and honestly, he didn't sound all that bad. I've heard a lot worse due to thick accents or simply too much time in the streets and not enough in the classroom. Not being eloquent is one thing, but not being able to read in 2014 is quite another for a college student athlete or not.
My guess is you could go to nearly every school in a BCS football conference not named Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Duke or Stanford and you'll find similar traits.
that is being heavily discussed in Chapel Hill. I don't know what to believe. Roy responded: http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/1364249.html
Press Release January 10, 2014 NCAA Responds To CNN Report On Student-Athlete Academic Success Earlier this week, CNN produced a segment that inaccurately and incompletely portrayed the academic success of student-athletes. Academic success of student-athletes is a core priority for the NCAA and its member schools. NCAA member schools have established academics standards student-athletes must meet so they can compete in their sport. These are completely separate from the admission standards colleges and universities use to admit and enroll students. For more than 10 years, the NCAA has gathered comprehensive data that show that student-athletes outperform their general student body peers academically. This is consistent across all sports, including those who compete at a high level in men’s basketball and football. The NCAA and its member schools embrace the role of providing student-athletes the skills for what comes next in life. As we shared with CNN, the hard facts and cold truth simply do not bear out the scenario portrayed in its reporting. * In the group of more than 29,000 student-athletes who entered Division I institutions for the first time in 2012, only 16 were certified as eligible with test scores below 600 (or the ACT equivalent) – which is .05%. Of those, only 2 were in the sports of men’s basketball or football. * Only 68 were certified as eligible with scores between 600 and 700 (0.2%). Of that group, 28 were men’s basketball or football student-athletes. * Test scores and GPAs are very highly correlated. This is why it is a very rare event to have a very low test score, but grades high enough to be certified as eligible. It is only slightly more common to see very low grades paired with a high test score. The NCAA and its member schools will continue to embrace our role in providing student-athletes the skills they need for life after college. Our unwavering commitment is to give young people opportunities to learn, compete and succeed
Not for anything but the NCAA is the last organization I'd trust on anything involving integrity.....
great, Roy, only one senior hasn't graduated. but what percentage of your recruits have made it to their senior year? I don't know the answer to that, but if only half make it to the senior year to begin with, only having one senior not graduate isn't the whole story. Junc, what percentage of his recruits leave school before their senior year? any idea?
Well, it depends how they leave. If they leave in good standing because they will be first-round picks, that's one thing. If they leave like Hairston left, that's another.
I would say at least 80-90% and I know many of the underclassmen have gone back to get their degress through summer school programs. List of guys that left early 2005: Sean May JR- I know he has graduated Raymon Felton JR Rashad McCants JR Marvin Williams FR- I believe he has graduated 2007: Brandan Wright FR 2009: Wayne Ellington JR Ty Lawson JR 2010: Ed Davis SO 2012: Harrison Barnes SO Kendall Marshall SO John Henson JR 2013: Reggie Bullock JR I can guarantee you those #s aren't from the basketball program
Hairston was forced out. Unfortunately when UNC does something wrong the NCAA comes down hard on them unlike most schools. Manziel gets suspended a half for making tens of thousands of dollars off his autograph, Lance Thomas gets 100s of thousands of dollars in jewelry during his senior season w/ no punishment but PJ drives in some rental cars and he's gone.
What's she's saying is just because they have graduated doesn't mean they should have. Graduation numbers mean nothing.
So, the NCAA singles out UNC for harsh treatment unlike "most other schools?" ....got it. Well anyway, so much for "it only involved the football team." Just "drives in some rental cars?" I think you forgot to mention that the rental cars were owned by convicted felon Haydn "Fats"Thomas. Rental cars driven while he was in possession of weed and driving Fat's rental cars without a drivers licence...and while doing so allows himself to get pulled over for SPEEDING. Smart 'college' boy that PJ.
there's no evidence against the basketball team just speculation. was he arrested? was he charged w/ possession or anything? NOPE, he drove in rental cars rented out to a guy he had a prior relationship w/ before enrolling at UNC. There was another guy w/ them at a smaller school, that player was allowed to return to his school and play again.
What test are they talking about here? If they're able to compare it to "the ACT equivalent," my guess is they're talking about the SAT. The SAT is a scaled test. The lowest possible reported score (total) is a 600 (200 in each of the three sections). Saying that only 0.2% of the group is between 600-700 is not something to brag about. Anything below 400 in the reading section would more or less corroborate a claim that someone is reading at a third-grade level. Maybe they're talking about the critical reading section only... but there is zero chance that 98.8% of student athletes scored above a 700 on the critical reading section of the SAT.
UNC'S history of academic fraud is well-documented and proven. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
I wouldn't say UNC gets singled out by the NCAA, I'd just say that other schools get favorable treatment by the NCAA for example the team that plays in Durham had a player admit he recieved improper benefits from an AAU Coach on their 2000/01 national title team that was swept under the rug, they also had a player recieve over 100K in jewelry without paying for it which is also an NCAA violation and that was also swept under the rug. Johnny Manziel signs thousands of autographs, makes thousands dollars on them and gets suspended for a half against Rice. If Johnny wasn't playing in the SEC I wonder what his punishment would have been? Scam Newton and Auburn? Oh yeah no wrong doing there They screw up the investigation of Miami and their essential pay for play scam, they reduce the punishments at Penn State yet USC is still being punished for one player. Maybe because Penn State took it laying down whiel USC fought back?
Corey Maggette was on the 1999 FF team, not the 2001 NC team. But please continue deflecting; the "everyone else does it" defense is a real solid one for a school that for 40 years has professed to be above the fray and better than everyone else. Carolina Way, indeed.
the '99 FF should have been vacated as should the '10 title but it's duke and they ignore. Carolina basketball hasn't been proven to do anything wrong unlike those examples against duke.
