Jordan Matthews...is the answer to the questions.

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  1. WW85

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    Who's the total receptions leader in SEC history?

    Who is the total leader in yards by a WR in SEC History?

    Who is the only WR to have over 100 catches in a season in SEC History?

    Graduated in 3 1/2 years with an Economic's degree.

    Team first player!!

    Best route runner I've seen in years, no wasted motion, precise cuts and plays faster than most believe.

    You can hardly find a flaw, he's a special player and person.

    He's going to rise up the draft board and possibly a target at #18 for the NYJ. I'm waiting for the Senior Bowl and his combine drills. I think he's going to smoke everyone in the catching drills in Indy.

    You want a true Pro on the Jets? A team player? A play maker that just accomplishes everything he attempts?

    You want a WR at 6'3'" with good hands and isn't afraid to be physical.?

    Just because he isn't rated a mid 1st round pick in Jan, doesn't mean it's going to stay that way
     
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    I just watched his highlights from this season and he looks impressive. He's got some Keenan Allen to him.

    I agree about how good of a team player he is and how well rounded he is and mentally tough which can't be underestimated.

    I thought this piece says a lot about him from the Senior Bowl preparations:

    "According to Senior Bowl Executive Director Phil Savage, Matthews requested game film on all of the cornerbacks who will be in Mobile so that he can study their game and pinpoint their weaknesses.

    Savage wrote:

    It is an impressive measure from Matthews and one that will certainly grab the attention of NFL scouts as they get a glimpse of the preparation that Matthews puts into each week. With his dedication to improving his craft and the professionalism that Matthews is already showing, he could be shaping up to be one of the biggest stars in Mobile for Senior Bowl week."

    I would love to get him in the 2nd. His highlight tapes show a lot of him against Ole Miss, UMass, Kentucky and Wake.

    I'm curious to see how he did against big time NFL style defenses which none of these schools have.

    How did he do against Mizzou, South Carolina and Georgia? Too bad he didn't play LSU, Auburn and Alabama as those defenses are a great barometer for the next level with the type of athletes they have.

    Edit: I see you already posted the link to what I was quoting.
     
  4. SoulFood

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    I agree. There's not many guys every year that I'm really high on (I'm not a big draft scout kinda guy), but there's a few that I just have a feeling about. Gio Bernard was that guy for me last year and this year I have Matthews on that list.
     
  5. JohnnyThaJet

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    I've been pushing his name out there for the Jets since the beginning of the season, I agree on all points WW85. For me, he's one of those instant impact guys, he doesn't need an adjustment period nor does he need to refine much of his skill set. He is who he is and that's a smart football player who has exceptional hands and athleticism. Now at 18, I'm not so confident the Jets will take him seeing as though there more than likely might be a guy like Ebron or Amaro still available to take, but if there isn't id absolutely love to take him at 18 or in a trade back situation (trade back would be preferable).

    And as you said, his stock should sore during the senior bowl.
     
  6. NCJetsfan

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    Great info. Thanks for sharing it. He'll never last to the Jets in the 2nd round, and probably not even to the 2nd round. I think I'd be quite happy with the Jets taking him at #18 even if all the TEs and WRs not named Watkins are still on the board.
     
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    Yeah, I agree that he's gone by end of round 1 as his stock just keeps rising. That would be a great position to be in if somehow Evans, Lee, Amaro and Ebron were all there at 18 with Matthews, yet that'll never happen. I really would have to give it some deeper thought on who I'd take out of those 5 players at 18.
     
  8. laxin

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    Now I do think Matthews has natural hands... But he drops way to many balls for someone that has a reputation as a player with great hands. 10% is well above the average and something that should be pointed out, especially if others at his position receive the same criticism.

    I personally still dont see a first round "talent", but thats just me. Id be happy with him if we traded back in the 1st, and would love him in the 2nd. As of right now though, with all of the depth at WR, I dont think Id pass on one of the top 2 TE's for Matthews.
     
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    This class is extremely deep. Anything can happen. I personally have about 6-7 WR's ranked above him right now, so he could drop to our pick in the 2nd. At the same time Im sure scouts and execs could all in love with his character and professionalism which could make him go higher than other WR's.
     
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    Matthews reminds me a bit of Cris Carter. Good route runner who makes good adjustments on the ball in the air. Very good hands. Does not have breakaway speed. I'm guessing he's going to run a 4.5ish time at the combine after training for it.

    He'd be a no-brainer in the 2nd and maybe an argument to trade down in the 1st if the big three are gone. I'd much rather have Matthews on the 25 than Amaro on the 18. I'd actually rather have him on the 25 than Amaro on the 25.
     
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    I'm high on Matthews and with Watkins, Lee, Evans and Ebron off the board this was a no brainer for me, to be honest i think i might consider taking Matthers over Evans and maybe even Lee....i just have a feeling about Matthews no matter where he goes he's going to be a legit #1 in this league mark my words. the rest of the picks were BPA in my opinion...only one i struggled with was my 5th round pick it was down to 3 corners and again i picked the one i liked best. All and all if this were to happen on draft day i would be thrilled.

    I just posted this in the draft simulator thread this morning, glad someone made a thread for him because ill take him at 18...i think he's got the potential to be better than Lee or Evans!
     
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    Ebron/Amaro in the 1st and Matthews in the 2nd is something i wouldnt mind at all
     
  13. WW85

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    The few that think Matthews is going to make into Rd 2 are in Fantasyland. Did you read all the accomplishments I posted? He's rated Rd 2 now....it will be different in May.

    I bet one of the perennial playoff teams is going to snatch him up in rd 1.
     
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    Well this is the thing (if we are talking about Jets targets for the 1st round)- as you have discussed, I just dont think there is that much of a difference in talent between Jordan Matthews and, say, Davante Adams to where I would pass on one of the elite TE's. That argument holds true in my eyes for every WR outside of Watkins and Evans.

    Now if Evans, Watkins, Ebron and Amaro are all gone by 18, Im sure I can get down with Matthews- hes a hell of a lot better than anything we have currently.
     
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    i think you would be satisfied after the first year if we did take him even over Evans or Ebron.
     
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    I agree that the WR class is deep (it's a known fact), but totally disagree with you about 6-7 WRs being better. Watkins and possibly Lee, are the only ones imo better than Matthews.

    You make it sound as if he wouldn't deserve to go higher. If that's what you intend, then I again disagree. A player with high character, professionalism, a great work ethic, and desire to maximize his talents IS better than other WRs who don't have the same character and deserves to be drafted higher.
     
  17. laxin

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    Well maybe after the first year because Matthews may be more "pro ready", but Evans and Ebron certainly have more talent and higher ceilings. It may take a little longer to adjust, but they have the potential to be great. It took Jeffery a year to become very good. If we judged him after one year, Im sure we wouldnt like that pick either.
     
  18. WW85

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    I have to agree 100%. Jordan is my 4th rated WR, when you take into account his entire body of work and dedication.

    If been following players for years and it's clear Matthew's stock is on the rise, the Senior Bowl and Combine will answer any concerns.

    I have a feeling Lee is going to be available when the Jets are OTC, so this all maybe moot.
     
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    I think a lot of people are disregarding the fact that Matthews drops more passes than almost every other receiver rated in the top 10 at that position.

    Beckham- 7.4%
    Landry- 3%
    Evans- 3.5%
    Robinson- 4.55%
    Watkins- 5.7%
    Cooks- 4.2%
    Matthews- 10.7%
    Benjamin- 9%

    And thats with over 40% of his catches coming from screen passes... Certainly a red flag for me. (I dont know the stats for Adams and Lee)
     
  20. Ozymandias

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    I would consider using pick 18 on him, or trading back and getting him later in the round. I can see 4-5 receivers going before our pick.
     

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