Ww85, how does sefarian Jenkins compare to the other two tight ends? Why is he seen as the third guy, the games I've seen I've come away very impressed at the matchup problems he presents
I think it's cause Amaro and Ebron are more offensively gifted so to speak. ASJ is the better blocker of the three, though. I want Amaro at 18. He's Jimmy Graham lite.
It seems with our luck all the top receivers will be off the board once we pick. Amaro would be the the right pick imo.
If the Draft fell that way i think i would go with Benjamin. He is a freak and is the perfect redzone threat we lack on the outside. I also think using one of our 3rd round picks + 2nd round pick to move up and grab ASJ and add Benjamin would be a great move for us. if that fails the TE market is good this year and Cumberland isn't bad.
Lol at Cumberland isn't bad. I don't think he's awful by any means, but he isn't someone to rely on either. I would take Amaro over Benjamin. This is a deep WR class, the TE class gets very slim after Amaro, Ebron and ASJ. Also, I would not move up for a TE in the 2nd round. Keep the picks.
IMO Amaro is the better blocker of the three as well as the best overall TE in this year's draft class. ASJ is bigger but for his size he is awful at blocking and getting separation. However, with ASJ's frame and better coaching, he has potential to be a better blocker at the next level. My TE Rankings 1- Amaro 2-Lyerla 3-Clive Walford 4-Ebron 5-ASJ I want us to draft Amaro with the 18th pick and pick up Lyerla later in the draft. Lyerla is a 1st round talent whose value will drop due to off the field issues. I say we run a 2 TE set with these two rookies. Use Lyerla all over (FB, In-Line), same way the pats used hernandez. While we all know ebron has the potential to be a matchup nightmare, his blocking scares me away from using the 18th pick on him. until he could improve his blocking he's more of big WR. Also another TE that has a lot of potential and could end up going undrafted is Clive Walford out of Miami. He is an exceptional blocker and very athletic for his size.
Not necessarily, one of the many issues on offense is lack of playmakers/receiving threats. Amaro is a receiving threat who excels at blocking and has the potential to be a bigtime playmaker. This selection takes care of a big Need. I rather amaro than any of the WRs that many people are drooling for with the exception of maybe sammy watkins who will surely be gone by time we pick.
Calvin Pryor in the first is very surprising. I wouldn't mind taking Amaro. If we didn't go that route I'd take Benjamin.
You're right, I don't why the other poster wants a below average TE as their #1. Cumberland isn't a #1 NFL TE....Jets' need to upgrade the position to give Geno more help.
Calvin Pryor is a hellva prospect, his stock will continue to rise, one of the hardest hitting players in this draft and a ballhawk too. His reckless abandon hitting could be a problem in today's NFL, the they throw flags at the drop of a hat. Round 1 is a little too rich at this point, but don't be surprised to see his stock sky rocket.
ASJ was probably the #1 TE going into 2013 and 3 things effected his stock. - His nunbers are way down from 2012 from 850 yards to around 450 in 2013. - Ebron & Amaro stepping up their game in 2013 - DUI last Spring and suspended by Steve Sarkisian. ASJ doesn't have elite speed, he's not slow though. He has good size and good hands and uses leverage and strength to make plays. Of the top 3, ASJ might be the best blocker in the NFL, although Ebron isn't bad. If we don't address TE in Rd 1, ASJ could be an option in Rd 2, he should be drafted in mid Rd 2, at worst, right around the Jets' pick at #49. Still a solid prospect and in the group of the 3 top TEs. Honestly, I don't see much separation between the Top 3 TEs, Ebron is clearly #1, Amaro and ASJ aren't too far behind. ASJ's concerns I spoke of should keep him in Rd 2.
I'm not sure if this is true or not, but it appears to me that most rookie QBs often use their TEs as a safety blanket. Sanchez did it and Geno did it, when he had a TE that could catch on the field. I wouldn't be disappointed at all if we went TE first round, although I see many many mocks having us take Mike Evans first, which would also be terrific.
Mike Adams has a better than 50% chance of being gone when the Jet's are OTC. Problem, Cumberland doesn't get separation and is just a JAG, it's a position that needs improvement. It's seems like you're making the point for an elite TE for Geno. I really didn't think Geno had the available weapons, TE included, to help his development. A Tight End like Ebron could do wonders in helping Geno have more options.
ASJ may be an improvement over cumberland but lets keep it real, if one of the reasons you dislike cumberland is his inability to separate you aren't going to enjoy us picking ASJ in the draft. ASJ isn't great at separation. On top of that he is pedestrian at blocking. When it comes to run blocking he himself gets driven back majority of the time. I don't understand the love affair with this guy. I understand he has great size and phenomenal hands but that is as far as it goes. I will say with his size he has potential to be a better blocker with coaching at the next level.
ASJ is a much better prospect and has a much higher ceiling than Cumberland. The player I've watched is a much better receiver than Cumberland. ASJ isn't a terrible blocker and he has the size and strength to be good in the NFL. I never said I had a love affair with ASJ, he could just be an option in Rd 2 if we go WR in Rd 1.
