Dee Miliner...have I missed something?

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  1. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Meh. Wilson played off the bench and was never given a starting role. How great was he if he couldn't break the starting lineup?

    Hey I am one of the first to call the nickel back, along with the third wideout, one of the most important bench positions. But the fact remains he is not a starter after three years, and this past year that is despite struggles elsewhere by the other corners.
     
  2. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    He is not a good outside corner, that's why he was not moved there. His value is in the slot and if its economic he should be retained to play that role for us IMO.
     
  3. Biggs

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    If by best you mean he didn't do much yea he was. The nickel back in the Jets scheme is only important if their two CB's in press are having a great year. Cro sucked this year and Dee was picked on by every team we played. Teams didn't have to go to the slot receiver against the Jets.

    Wilson had 2 pass defended and 1 start. He was invisible not good and he was invisible because teams rightly picked on our press coverage when we had 2 guys who couldn't do it for most of the season.

    If Cro was healthy and Dee was playing 16 games like he played the last couple of games Wilson would have been exposed. Don't mistake that for great play.
     
  4. Big Blocker

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    Right. I would not predict that the FO will not bring him back. But I would be VERY surprised if we see the FO giving Wilson anything other than a low number on any contract extension.
     
  5. JetLifeLo

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    lol was this sarcasm? bc Milliner never turns his head around.. he's been that way since alabama.. actually crazy that he can prosper doing that.. but he's gonna get alotta penalties called on him because of it..he got away with a few in those last two games where he played really good.
     
  6. NFL

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    Lol, you go to the open receiver not to one or two guys. We barely saw Wilson this year, barely mentioned him, and that's a good thing. If his man was getting open we'd know about it.
     
  7. Milliner is your Mommy

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    Being a starter is a meaningless title. What matters is how many snaps you play.
     
  8. legler82

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    When guys are wide open for chunk yardage on the outside, you don't need to throw it inside. Trust me if Milliner continues to improve and we address the opposite CB situation, you'll start hearing his name again.

    Besides not being very good and able to turn his head, my biggest issues with Wilson are lack of INTs and he gives you nothing in the return game. He was supposed to be a "good returner" coming out. I put that in quotes because if you saw him at Boise, you would know that wasn't really true.
     
  9. b.reyes16

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    Agreed. He's always been a good nickel corner. People were just disappointed he didn't become Revis on the outside.
     
  10. Biggs

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    He didn't play that's why he was barely mentioned. We were being torched on the outside we used 2 safeties most of the season with a 7 man front.


    Take a look at the Bills game. 8 snaps, the Bills rarely ran a 3 receiver set against us. The simply beat us deep on the outside.
     
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  11. mezzavo

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    Sometimes I think the nickle corner doesn't get the credit the position is due...ESPECIALLY in today's NFL with the pass happy league it has become. With the addition of the hybrid, ridiculously talented, TE's the nickle corner is going to get a whole lot more attention.

    Wilson is top 5 in the league as a nickle corner...and I'd argue number 1. If we had drafted him top 5 then I'd say we didn't get the value...but considering where we got him then it's just about right. If Milliner continues to develop and we can bring Cro back at a reasonable salary, for the next 2 years, we might have a pretty decent set of corners.
     
  12. Big Blocker

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    Any fair minded person reading my posts on this would acknowledge I gave due deference to the importance of the nickel back. But that does not mean that the nickel back is as valuable to the team as your two starting cb's. Name another team where the nickel back is recognized as more talented than the two starters. Perhaps you can, but I can't think of any.

    Wilson is decent at nickel. His limitations on the outside do not create huge problems for him in nickel coverage. But that does not mean he does not have limitations. If he had gotten over those limitations we probably would have seen him start, especially given all the problems with Milliner and Cro.
     
  13. rsmehta

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    Even when milliner was benched, walls was selected to take over his duties.

    At a certain point you need to realize that the coaching staff has a better idea of the capabilities of their own players than you do.
     
  14. Biggs

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    He plays around 40 percent of the defensive snaps and had 6 penalties. Cromartie played over 95% of the defensive snaps and had 7 penalties.

    Allen played a much higher percentage of the snaps.
     

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