I love how often he high points the ball and catches most of the passes in the first window. He may not have lights out speed, but he can really move for a big target. you can see where all the V-jax comparisons come from. All too often people get hung up on speed and its way down the list of traits it takes to be a successful receiver. That said, Evans has more than enough to excel at the next level.
I think the real debate is what do the Jets need more from a WR? The big physical downfield type ala Evans/Watkins or the separation artists like Lee/Cooks? Perhaps the answer is both.
so guys that can break off easy from their competition or guys that can contend for the ball even if covered? its obvious that we'd want both but its questionable which would be better. if I had to chose either I guess the separation artist would be better for this offense, its best to limit Smiths desire to trust a WR to make a grab while covered, don't need him getting complacent with that no matter how good the Receiver actually is at it.
his forty is a 4.58 as of now. that is slow, maybe too slow in the NFL. you need to be able to gain some separation in the NFL
How is Mike Evans going to do when he is playing in an offense where the QB is not a threat to run for 20 yards on every drop back?
Perish that thought. He has everything except brain. Just like his older brother. And David was a #1 overall pick-worthy looking prospect at that. Do you want lesser version of that? I'd say stay away. If I could have it my way, I'd love to see Jets drafting Blake Bortles [provided he declares.]
Larry Fitzgerald ran a 4.6 a Anquan Boldin ran a 4.7... Any other myths about receivers you need debunked?
Jerry Rice ran 4.6 at combine. And yeah, he was so slow that nobody could cover him. Slow my fucking ass.
I sure hope Evans runs in 4.5-4.6 range, otherwise Jets will have no shot at him. I don't know much yet about his attitude or work ethic but based on his physical talent and skills the guy has superstar written all over him. Seems pretty darn NFL ready too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Im pretty sure thats a predicted time. Anyway, for a WR his size, a 40 time anywhere in the 4.5-4.55 range is great. Maybe too great to have him picked before we have a shot at drafting him. Honest question- do you like any prospects in this years draft? Btw, Josh Gordon and Kendall Wright played with RGIII at Baylor who was a threat to take off and theyve turned out just fine.
I like lots of the prospects in this draft. I'm just a bit leery of the sophomores who are jumping in because it's a deep talented draft with just the juniors and seniors. I'm not opposed to taking Mike Evans but I wouldn't want to take him over a guy like Marqise Lee who has had 3 good to excellent years playing with less talent at QB and in a WCO - which is a pro set. If Evans is the guy who is left when the Jets pick, then I'd be ok with taking him if that's the guy they have on top of their board. Don't get the wrong idea from my comments on Bridgewater. I think he's a top 5 pick and about as valuable as Matt Ryan was the year he came out of Boston College. He's probably going to go in the top 5 and whoever gets him is going to have an excellent QB prospect.
I like Evans & think he fits the mold of Anquan Boldin/Alshod Jeffery. Basketball types w/ the rare ability to box out the defender. When you consider he's only played football for a couple years now..the sky is the limit to his development. That said even if the Jets draft him..they still will have a major void in their offensive corps. They need somebody who can create yards after catch & who can break a long one.That's not Evans game. That's not to say a big physical match-up guy isn't a need on offense as well..just that I don't think Mike Evans solves everything. The way I see it..the jets need 1 of each type of skill type. They could even technically mix/match based on position. Big Physical Possession type: WR/TE Dynamic route runner/ball carrier: WR/RB We could go Lee round 1, Sefarian Jenkins round 2 or Evans round 1, Dri Archer round 2 As long as both needs are getting addressed..it's hard to be upset given this skill class.
You would rather have Lee than Evans??? Just because Lee has played one more year? Jeez. And there is no way you can call this past year a "good" year. You put WAY too much stock into the amount of time someone spends at the college level. Its one thing if its a QB, but a WR? Josh Gordon had 1 year of production in college, and now he's a top 5 WR. You take the best player. Evans is by far the better player.
Wow!!! I can't believe you feel that way. I shouldn't even respond because you just don't understand my previous comment about the abilities of NFL WRs and what makes them successful. All I can add....4.5 to 4,6 speed for a big WR is fine in the NFL. FWIW, right now Mike Evans looks like he will be available in Mid Round 1 and should be on the Jet's radar. I've been following College Football for some time and Evan's 2013 year was one of the best in recent memory.
Lee is much faster, more elusive, and runs better routes. A very good argument can be made that Lee is better than Evans. The more I watch Evans the more I like, but Lee is definitely a stud. I think Lee and Kerley are very similar players. Except that Lee is 6' instead of 5'9", and will probably run a 4.4 flat 40 (if not better) instead of a 4.56.
Mike Evans is very physical - being physical and running good routes can create separation as well. When's the last time the Jets had a physical big target? Braylon maybe? Evans easily has better hands. Just imagine snap after snap Evans just beating up small corners, wearing them down. He's not as physical as Anquan Boldin (no one really is in the NFL - remember when Eric Smith fucked him up?). But he's a tier below that. I want a physical WR - I am sick of our WRs being jammed and beat at the LOS.
I dont think Lee is "much faster". I wouldnt be surprised if he only ran a tenth of a second faster 40 than Evans. I also dont think he runs much better routes. He may get in and out of breaks better simply because of his size, but Evans can get off press, use his physicality to get separation and is deceptively fast/fluid. I just dont really see Lee being a definite #1 WR. Thats where my "problem" with him lies. I absolutely think Evans, Watkins, Adams and Benjamin can be #1s. He reminds me of Holmes who was never quite a #1 WR. I could very well be wrong, but thats how I view Lee. I could easily see Matthews, Robinson, Beckham and Cooks being better pros than lee so I wouldnt exactly be banging for him at the table inside the top 12-15.
