Looking forward to the second improved season of Geno's career as the starting QB of the NYJ with Rex, Marty and Lee guiding him along to greatness and with Idzik adding some free agency weapons and another stellar class of draft selections like he added in 2013
I want to answer also if that's fine 1) He has a decent shot to be better than average. I wouldn't say it's looking good either way (bust or long term QB). He has shown flashes in both directions which is expected and he has been on a team overall that has been in constant flux because of him and because of things outside of his control. 2) I actually think his decision making has gotten a lot better recently. Maybe it's a short term thing playing against ok defense or bad defenses, but I haven't seen poor ball security and the one really bad throw was that CAR game. Besides that, I think he's done a good job playing smart and understand game situations. 3) Middle of next season should be a good point to re-evaluate him if he's playing or if he's not playing. There should be *hopefully* an influx of offensive players and better play. A good offseaosn to fix Geno's mistakes and help him learn.
IIRC Geno called an audible on that second TD pass to Nelson. I also noticed on some other plays he was progressing his reads. He was looking for Holmes I think then looked around and found Kerley. No doubt the good protection helped him out.
You don't have to. Geno is a young talented player who was not ready to start on an NFL team. In spite of that he has shown an NFL arm, great overall athletic ability, durability, and growth. He has the ability to be a very good NFL QB. There is nothing about this year that changes that. This is all about coaching, scheme and development coupled with putting better players around him. Yesterday's game didn't change that.
So, you've been ready to cut him loose for a month now, right? Do you not see him making progress? How much will you be whining if he becomes a star somewhere else? Can you guarantee he won't?
We still need an OLB and FS. I would draft a receiver in round 1, OLB in round 2, FS and Oline in round 3.
he has to be at least Aaron Rodgers quality in his first year, otherwise he'll never be anything worth while. Quarterbacks are not players that progress, they are who they are and thats it. next years guys will be way better, because they always do until we realize their shit does in fact stank too. The funny part is he probably won't be given much longer than next year to show something. We've been burned by the wait and see talk for Sanchez and the inconsistent highs and lows he's given us as well as other instant successes elsewhere. I think a lot fans would rather "Luck out" than suffer through the possibility of waiting a couple years to see a player be the guy. conventional wisdom has shifted, even though it may not be accurate.
You say that but many quarterbacks have good fundamental footwork (an area where Geno needs improvement), a quick release (another area where Geno could use work), and the athleticism to do the job (Geno seems to have these tools). Too be a good QB in the NFL you need all of the above. What separates the very good and great QBs from the pack are the mental aspects of the position: reading defenses leading receivers looking off defenders running the offense / telling other players where they need to be selling play action and draws to defenders calling audibles and changing plays according to the defensive front I think it is safe to say that Geno Smith not only needs to work on the physical aspects of the game (footwork and release) but has barely scratched the surface on the mental aspects of the game that he needs to develop. While Geno may have made progress (after he regressed earlier), he has a long way to go and there is a better than even chance that he never becomes a very good to great QB. Right now it is way too soon to know either way.
All on Geno as to why our offense is terrible and our pass coverage stinks. Stephen Hill is an amazing wide out that got cursed because of Geno and Santonio Holmes hasn't put 100 percent effort on the field because of the curse that is Geno Smith. Chris Ivory and Jeremy Kerley have gotten hurt because Geno Smith is such a terrible jinx too. Brian Winters hasn't become a prime Alan Faneca because you guessed it.....Geno Smith. I like how after months of "sucking dick" you don't say the same for our pass protection OLine. They finally had an excellent game together yesterday but it was against "A 4 win team" despite this defense statistically being one of the better defenses on the year, especially from a pass coverage standpoint. So yeah fuck that indeed.
While we agree that beyond the physical the mental aspects of the game are extremely important to separate the bad from the good to the great. Where you and I separate is you have prejudged Geno to be incapable of grasping the mental aspects of the Game. I haven't. It's no different then my argument with those who thought McElroy should get a shot. While he may well have had some of the mental aspects down pat he would never have the physical talent to excel in the NFL. Geno is only limited by his field vision, mental clock and work ethic. All yet to be determined.
We also have free agency, so, you don't have to draft every single weakness. There are enough of them to fill, and not all picks pan out (Stephen Hill). I'd be happy if they drafted 2-3 WRs and went Best Player Available while doing it. If they happen to get OLBs or FSs during the draft, fine. The only "MUST HAVE" in this offseason is offensive weapons. We can get some in free agency, but, we need 3 starters on offense between WR and TE from this off-season. We'd be lucky- very lucky- to get that all out of 1 draft, much less also trying to get impact players at OLB & FS.
I want the draft to do this with the 1st 4 picks: Round 1: Evans/Watkins/Mack(Might have to take Mack if we go 7-9 or 8-8) Round 2: Best available FS if we took a WR, best available WR(Jordan Matthews or Benjamin) if we took Mack/non WR like Amaro Round 3 1st pick: Best available FS if we took WR/TE or OLB/TE or OLB/WR........ Best available OLB if we took WR/FS(My ideal path) Round 3 2nd pick: Dri Archer(I just really want this kid as a RB/KR/PR/. Jets wanted Austin, he's the closest thing to Austin in this draft but he's taken more injuries and plays in a lesser conference) I want a WR(Prefer Watkins or Evans)/FS(Loston preferably)/OLB/Dri Archer among the first 4 picks we ave. No trade ups, entertain trade down for Lee to later portion of round 1 if Watkins/Evans/Mack all go. I'd prefer a veteran WR and veteran starting TE. Franchise Austin Howard.....look at all options for RG as Colon isn't so good as pass protection(Great hole creator though) but be fine if we do bring back Colon.
Holes as of now: K: Nick Folk (starter) UFA RT: Austin Howard (starter) UFA, Vlad Ducasse (Backup) UFA RG: Willie Colon (starter) UFA LG:Brian Winters (starter) not very good so far, Vlad Ducasse (Backup) UFA TE: Jeff Cumberland (starter) UFA, Kellen Winslow (Backup) UFA WR # 1: Santonio Holmes - possible cap casualty WR # 2: We don't really have one QB: Mark Sanchez (starter) - possible cap casualty, David Gerrard (Backup) UFA LDE: Leger Douzable (backup) UFA ROLB: Calvin Pace (starter) UFA, Garrett McIntyre (backup) RFA LOLB: Is Coples really an OLB?, Jermain Cunningham (backup UFA ILB: Nick Bellore (backup) RFA FS: Ed Reed (starter) UFA RCB: Antonio Cromartie (starter) some of you want to cut this guy, Darren Walls (backup) UFA If we resign Calvin Pace, Austin Howard, both RFAs, and keep Cromartie we still have many holes to fill. I would look to come away with at least two decent WRs, a guard, and a top flight safety in free agency.
Geno will be a solid backup QB at best. In a few years he might not even be in the league. You guys can disagree with me all you want, just like you disagreed with me last year when I said that Foles was a good-great qb worth trading for. That's cool though, lets just hang our hopes on building around Kellen Clemens 2.0 while we pass up on the next generation of starting qb's. I was at that game. he was terrible, save for about one drive. if by good game you mean not fumbling everytime he took a brutal sack then yea, he had a good game.
I have always been objective about Geno, not like you Geno fanbois. I've given him props when he is good, I have ALWAYS praised his arm but I've been critical when he was awful. And not nearly as critical as some of the posters here. You weren't posting much during his 6 game slide but a good game and you're back. Got it. I will tell you, I didn't miss all your exclamation points!!! You oftentimes come off like a 4th grade girl writing an essay about "What I did this Summer!!!" !!!!!!! _
I've been wondering about this also. The transition has had some hiccups but he's also had the early injury which set back his transition. I'm thinking Idzik should ask around and see what Coples can bring back in trades before draft. He's still on rookie contract and I'm sure there are teams out there who see him with solid chance of starting on their DL. In 2012, second rounder produced Kiko Alonso and third round produced Keenan Allen. So we know gems can be found outside of the first round. If the Coples to OLB transition is suspect to Idzik, Jets should act this offseason to maximize their return.
Think Geno played well against Cleveland. Cardinals only have 4-wins but their defense is a lot stronger than their offense. So Geno wasn't beating up on a hopeless squad there. He seemed to go through his progressions in a more comfortable manner and his accuracy seemed solid. Still not sure if he's the answer for in 2014. However, I think he's shown enough to earn opportunity to compete for 2014 starting gig. Also think he's shown enough to prevent Jets from over reaching in 2014 draft to nab QB prospect.
