I cannot begin to tell you how impressed I am w/ Arians. How did it take this guy so long to become a HC? did a great job w/ Indy last year under tough circumstances and an even better job this year w/ an awful QB(at this point in his career).
Exactly. Arians has been very good but her certainly hasn't been offensive savior for the Cards. He is winning despite Carson Palmer because he has the best D in the league. Sounds a lot like Rex's first season here.
Although Palmer isn't what he used to be in Cincinnati,to say he "outright sucks" is bad information. I would have loved to have had him this season and let Geno sit and learn. Longtime, no he would not have been the answer. For a season, with a young QB waiting in the wings, Palmer would have been great. It would have been akin to Steve McNair learning, while Chris Chandler took the reins in Houston. I think while Arians deserves a lot of credit to what's gone on in Arizona, Palmer should get some love. Last year under Ken Whisenhunt, the team was HORRIBLE, because he kept rotating QB. Granted some of his moves were due to injuries, but it was a bad year. Palmer has at least stabilized the QB position.
If I owned the Giants my biggest issue would be deciding which VLT to drink my New Years eve Champagne in. The Jets are equal partners with the Giants. You don't need to be envious of them.
He had 4 picks yesterday. He's a statue and he is a terrible decision maker under pressure. The Cards have a bad OL and he is always under pressure and making poor decisions. He has cost the team wins this year with his poor decision making. Arians almost benched him yesterday. The fact is there are lots of bad QB's that play on good teams. See Mark Sanchez in 09 and 10. Palmer is a stop gap and one of the weak links on a very good well coached teams. I used to love Palmer by the way. He has never recovered from his knee injury. Simply not the same guy he was. An average QB the Cards win by 2 scores yesterday in what's not a close game. Palmer self destructed yesterday and was bailed out.
In fairness as much as Palmer has been a liability, Arians has done a remarkable job with the O if you consider the Line and the QB. They run a great scheme and the WR run great disciplined routes and come back to the ball and the QB when needed. They are a well coached team on both sides of the ball.
And if we didn't have a clueless owner, and Idzik could have fired Rex following last season, perhaps you would be impressed with the job he had done with our beloved Jets and we could have two good QBs on our team (Smith and Sanchez) and a very bright future. If Rex stays, who will we be saying next year that that guy could have been our HC and doing great things with the Jets?
I'd still take Rex. You are the type that will want to fire a coach every 3 years or so, winning organizations do not do that.
Pressures on Idzik if he does this move. Idzik has a free year but the amount of pressure is about to start building on Idzik, the expectation for next season will be playoffs. A 7-8 win season should be followed up with a playoff season. IDC who he chooses for the coach, its officially on him now.
BPA at a position of need could wind up being a "reach". I'm not saying that is what you're advocating, but for instance, in some drafts for whatever reason there just aren't very good prospects at some positions. If you give too much emphasis to need, and simply take the best player at that position, then it can burn you big time. There has to be some balance. Fortunately (or unfortunately depending upon how you look at it), the Jets have a lot of holes (WR, TE, FS, OLB, OG and some would say QB, RB, CB and perhaps even OT), and since players at various positions often wind up rated about the same, the Jets probably can take a player at a position of need in each round of the draft who will be BPA.
Quit saying that I am the type to do thus and so. You know nothing about me. You couldn't be more wrong.
BS. You don't understand squat yourself. I clearly explained how that can and does work. I can't help it if you're too dense to understand it.
It's not just the offense. He has pretty much the whole team playing well. They are well coached. He would have a young QB in Smith to develop, and could possibly have even resuscitated Sanchez' career and turned him into a decent starter. No, he wouldn't have had any weapons to work with this year, but he would have next season. But even having said that, if Arians was the HC rather than Rex, perhaps Arians would have been able to convince Idzik to bring in some different FAs that would have made a difference in how the season went.
If we are lead to believe that Rex told his team he is out..now im stating this as if it happened..the Jets have a chance to be a 500 team with this roster. If Idzik was open to Rex at all from the beginning, you would think its a done deal..Rex is the coach. For Rex to do what he did..he has known all along that Idzik was not totally behind him. For those that say Idzik took the job knowing Rex would be the coach because of Woody..lets call a spade a spade here. There wasnt a huge line waiting to hire Idzik at GM. Under the radar guys would take a job in a second even if they are forced to have a coach they couldnt hire. There are hundreds of guys that would take a GM job with a coach forced on them. My 2 cents is simple. You can win 2 ways in the NFL when it comes to HC's. 1. A good coach with a great roster. 2. A great coach with a good roster. Then there is always 3 a great coach with a great roster and there you might have a dynasty. Is Rex a great coach? I mean great from a to z. I would say no...but I was against him for many reasons but you cant lose site at what he did this year..its impressive. I just see him being a great coach at making a decent team good..then a coach that has an ability to make BOTH SIDES OF THE FOOTBALL good enough to win a Superbowl. Now that I have not seen. For those that say you cant blame the offense the past 5 years on him...give me a break. If you are going to blow him about the guys he has picked on defense..you have to do the same thing on offense. Period. and 44 Im not intending that towards you..you seem fair and balanced..its just that some around here think he can be a great head coach while his head is in his ass when it comes to the offense..and it doesnt work like that.
If you point to getting to those AFC Championship Games as evidence of "good coaching" then you also have to look at the fact that the D didn't show up in the first half vs Pittsburgh. As far as the best coaching in a while with the Jets that's certainly debatable. He's had some great games, but so did Mangini and Herm. Heck, the Herm-coached Jets shut out Peyton Manning and the Colts what 44-0 or something like that. He's also had some very bad games as they did as well. Even if he is the best they've had, that's not really saying much, is it? Even the "great" Parcells went into tank for half the season following Vinny's injury in the season opener in 1999. LOL No authority over the roster? OMG you are clueless. Tanny was a bean counter and attorney. What did he know about talent and players who would fit what Rex wanted/needed? That is absolutely ridiculous and wrong. EVERY NFL HC has input into who is drafted and who is signed in FA. You're the only one who is in denial and it's glaringly apparent you think you know everything. I have a news flash for you, you don't. Any one who says that something is definitely gonna happen "Book on it" needs to get over himself. Nothing is ever written in stone. You don't have a crystal ball or any more special insight into what things will happen than the rest of us. I don't need to do anything. I already have. A big part of the reason the Jets were finished to do so poorly is precisely because of the poor coaching and talent assessment job that Rex has done, because the team turned into a circus on his watch, and because they have no respect for Rex or the team. The talent level is also a big part of that, but other HCs manage to do pretty well with mediocre talent. The league is built on parity. There's a reason why there are upsets every season and the saying, "Any given Sunday" exists. If you don't like my reasoning or posts fine. Please feel free to skip them, as I will yours. It's obvious that we are like oil and water and will not mix or agree. For the good of the board, it's best that we simply ignore each other.
I am reading all over tiwtter now, they told him he's fired. They gave him the option to coach the last game and hes going to.
