Really? Do some of you guys not read or pay attention at all? This is the 2nd or 3rd time I've seen this mentioned tonight. For the final time, Woody is the one who insisted that Rex not be fired last off season. Several of the GM candidates removed their name from consideration for the Jets' job because Woody made it known that Rex could not be fired. Thus it isn't on Idzik or other FO personnel at all. It's solely on Woody.
How about missing out on a great offensive mind and QB developer like Bruce Arians who's doing a very good job with the Cards?
There's some merit in that, but imo not as much value as their playing, and in Allen's case, he could be making plays that would help the team win games whereas Reed is basically doing nothing.
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/33557/if-rex-goes-then-13-was-playoffs-or-bust This doesn't say that.
Fair enough, but we'll just have to disagree. I think Rex can coach D, but he cannot coach a whole team. I don't think he has a clue how to build an offense or STs, and because he's a players' coach and so loyal to his guys, he doesn't know how to get results when they don't happen as a result of his "motivation." I think the difference between Rex and Walton is negligible.
The article really doesn't discuss when Idzik was hired. It was very common knowledge that Woody told prospective GM candidates that firing Rex was not on the table. That's why a number of high profile candidates removed themselves from consideration. Besides, what do you think means? Do you know what a shotgun wedding is? That quote allude to the fact that Idzik was forced to keep Rex this year. In addition, that's the handiwork of Rich Cimini. Seriously? You're gonna take that tool's evaluation or word for anything?
If that article is true and it was playoffs or bust for Rex in 2013, then this franchise really is a joke. Give him a terrible roster, strip down the team, and rebuild. Then tell a coach its do or die? I HIGHLY doubt that is true. However, the Jets are a joke, so maybe it is.
Yes, Idzik had to keep Rex this season. That's why it makes no sense to blame Idzik for wasting this season if he decides to fire Rex now. If given his choice when hired, he probably would have hired his own HC. That's as it should have been. If he had been able to hire his own HC at that time, then Rex probably wouldn't have been here this season.
Just because most fans think Rex as HC means they're closer to playing in a SB than they are with anyone else doesn't mean squat to me. Jets fans are known for being really dense at times. I've been posting on Jets boards for around 15 years. During that time, many fans thought Herm was a very good HC long after I knew what a clueless doofus he was. Similarly, many thought Sanchez was a good QB (and still do) long after I realized he isn't very good. The same things goes for Schottenheimer and Tannenbaum. I've seen some fans on here still claim that Schotty is a good OC, Tannenbaum an excellent GM, and that Sanchez is a good QB. Besides, it's totally unrealistic to think that ANY HC is gonna win the SB next year with the Jets. Between one third and one half of their roster could be new, with a number of new starters, and that's even if Rex stays. If there's a new HC and a system or two changes, then things could be even worse.
Things will absolutely be worse. Rex Ryan has gotten 7 wins out of this team, he has kept this team competitive throughout most of the year and had a couple of huge wins in the process when considering the state of this roster. The coaching tandem that we have now IS a really good one, you can only do so much as a coach with this roster and I can literally see what a great job they have done, how much they have got out of their players, I am confident not many coaching tandems could do that. With this roster we could have easily been picking number one in next years draft, we are not though, because of this coaching staff. The only fans that are dense on these boards are those like yourself that think that any kind of change is the cure all be all. Well guess what, that's all this organization has done for the past 40+ years, where has that gotten us? Continuity is the only thing that will get us to where we need to be, we revamp this roster and we are back in business. It feels like a very long time ago but Rex has proven he is a winner in the playoffs, once there. The roster has been neglected for years now and it's shown after every single year. Losing Rex will have major consequences. Book it.
No, the dense fans are those like yourself who think continuity for continuity's sake is the answer, and that's absurd. Continuity comes from quality, not mediocrity. In no post have I even remotely suggested that they change just for the sake of change. I have enumerated the reasons why I think a change is needed, and said that yes, things could potentially get worse I think your assertion that this team could have been picking #1 is absolutely ridiculous and one of most ridiculous I've seen in a while. The DL talent alone was enough to get the team 2-3 wins. They won 6 last year with things totally in disarray and the butt fumbler at QB. With a much better OC, additional talent, with Mo & Ellis having another year's experience, Big Snacks and Davis having a year's experience, and likely a different starting QB than Sanchez, there was no reason to think they couldn't match that total if not be a game or so better.
Hire a new GM, keep Rex as head coach, purge the roster, draft and start a rookie qb, let Rex pick a new OC, create a perfect scenario for a strong offseason in 2014, but then fire Rex after a possible 8-8 season. Lmao what a fuckin joke if that was the plan all along.
As I mentioned in another thread earlier in the season, I think Rex's time should be up. He got a fair chance here for five years, did some good things, and definitely deserves at least a defensive coordination position somewhere (and maybe later on a head coaching gig, if he learns some lessons), but there are just too many problems with him as a head coach right now. The lack of flexibility (sticking with clearly bad players, and schemes that dont fit current talent), lack of discipline, really bad drafting record, apparent cluelessness about offense, etc. I understand people's point that they are concerned about who will replace him, but you can't build a real contender by playing it that safe. Most things worth having come with some risk, and there is certainly a chance our next head coach will be as bad or worse than Rex, but there is also a chance they will be some new talent (as long as the management brings in some coordinator or college coach with promise, and not some NFL head coaching retread who failed elsewhere). I'd rather take that chance, rather than remain stuck in mediocrity, even if that means the risk of being worse.
Either you're using BPA as a drafting philosophy or you are not using BPA as a drafting philosophy. You can't say "Draft the best player available ... but not a defensive lineman or a defensive back or a center, etc" - at that point, it's no longer BPA and has now become "Draft at a position of need". It's one or the other. By definition, you cannot advocate BPA and then follow that up with "but not a defensive lineman".
I live in Houston and haven been driving around listening to local sports talk all day doing last minute Christmas shopping. They started talking about this right after the Texans game was over (apparently it was reported on ESPN) and I'd estimate 2 to 1 the callers want Rex as the new Texans head coach.
