When you see the hands that Jeffrey has you have no choice but to IMMEDIATELY realize that he is the far better receiver. What a disasterous mistake the Hill pick was. Absolute disaster.
Alshon Jeffrey will be a star WR in this league for a long time. Stephen Hill will be out of this league in short time.
Stephen Hill's biggest issues have nothing to do with the other guys on the field. Everyone is better when they have better players around them, Hill included, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a bad WR. The gap between Jeffery and Hill is much wider than the players surrounding them.
I liked Hill better than Jeffery coming out. Jeffery didn't always get great separation in college & he seemed to lack fluidity in/out of breaks.I also was looking at Spurrier's history w/ WR draft busts & was very skeptical. Hill while very raw made alot of big plays in a run first offense in college. His movement skills were really impressive at the combine..and at the time Jets were in desperate need of a size/speed element at WR. Unfortunately he hasn't developed much in terms of route running & lacks some football instincts. Meanwhile Jeffery seems to be at the cutting edge of these bigger more physical "power forward" receivers. The rules are so favorable to the offense that if your receivers are big & physical enough w/ good body control it doesn't matter how much separation they get. They are able to box out defenders & really make an impact.Go Figure.
I hadn't watched a GT game since Calvin Johnson was there, so when Hill was drafted I said nothing. I had no opinion on the guy for a reason. Jeffery reminded me of Sterling Sharpe, another SC guy. Both are physical, have great hands, and used their body to great effect to position themselves to catch the ball. There are no stats on this, but I bet there were not many interceptions made on passes intended for Sharpe unless the pass was just god awful. That guy had tremendous body control and was always in great position to make a catch and not allow the defender to do much. Jeffery is very similar in that way.
Its funny how you respond about McCown AFTER he plays the worst defense in the NFL and lights them up. What proper timing to try to strike up a McCown vs Geno argument. Regardless of his hot streak now, the guy is a career backup. Those are the facts. Its a running backs job to break tackles. Granted Ivory breaks more then most but the line isnt as bad as you make it out to be. Do you not realize most dbs these days run in the 4.3/4.4 range? His speed means nothing if he cant run a route if his life depended on it. Give it up now. Hill is hot garbage. Like i said before, if he was worth anything, he wouldnt be benched on a team with the worst WR core in football. That tells you all you need to know right there....
I was on the opposite end as you. I took Jeffery in the top ten when the 3 round mock was run. I loved his ability to catch anything around him and though his speed was underrated. For once I was right about a receiver. On hill I had high hopes due to his speed and ability to showcase a circus catch or two, but he has has not developed any route running and is still far to much of a body catcher. He's a classic case of height and speed getting way too much focus for receivers leading up to the draft.
He gets "fair" hate for lack of production and being clueless about how to play the position. The lack of production is understandable given that he did very little in college too. The glaring lack of understanding on how to use his physical tools is the most problematic. He may look great at the combine jumping and running a 40, but he looks very awkward trying to catch a football. That's sort of a big problem considering his job description is catching the football.
Hill was a 2nd day round 4 to 6 prospect until he had good combine numbers. David Nelson had better WR skills then Hill coming out the difference is 2 tenths in the 40. If he was taken in the 4th, 5th or 6th were he belonged there wouldn't be any hate at all. We moved up put a picture out that made him look like the next Al Toon with track star speed and the hype was on. It's not the kids fault that he can run like the wind but can't catch a football.
The comparison from Jeffery to Hill is a silly one. Jeffery goes and get the ball, whereas Hill waits for it to bounce off his chest. Watch the highlights of Hill in college and all of the passes he caught that were nearly perfectly thrown. Hopefully Idzik stops looking at 40 times and combine numbers, and looks at how players actually translated to the field in college. You'd think the Jets would've learned from the Vernon Gholston disaster when he displayed incredible physical prowess but simply used that to push college tackles over rather than pass rush moves or any sign of technique. Hindsight is 20/20, and I can't really say I disapproved of the Hill pick at the time because a big physical receiver is exactly what the Jets needed. The later round drafting needs to improve or else this team is going nowhere though.
To think this piece of crap was selected BEFORE Alshon Jeffrey... I remember how pissed I was at the time...
It's embarassing, and another reason why you don't hire an accountant to be a talent evaluator. It's disgusting to ignore on-field production given all of the failed overachievers at the combine.
Hill doesn't seem to have the natural ability at receiver as you would want. He really does look like a sprinter with a helmet on. He has poor hands, runs shitty routes and doesn't look comfortable out there. Hopefully he learns more from this season and improves next year.
Hill is still a project and has value. He gets open but geno cannot make the read fast enough. I seen last week the play Before geno ran it in for a touchdown, Holmes was just sitting in the endzone with no one around in front of genos face. So , It comes down to Hill not getting a real chance as a no 1 WR and that he needs a QB that can throw to him when he is open.
Wasnt our good ole friend Dewayne Robertson in there somewhere as well? Tanny never learned his lesson....
If he was as open as some of you blowhard Hill fans claim he is, then why is Rex benching him and taking away his playing time? You think a freaking head coach doesnt see what you see?
