Sanchez was the #4 overall pick and we went to the AFCCG two years in a row with him. Geno was a 2nd rounder no different than Kellen Clemens or Vlad Ducasse and we owe him shit. No way Geno is handed the starting role next year.
It would be fucking stupid to fire Rex Ryan after giving him this garbage roster to work with, so yeah I could see it happening because this franchise is fuckin retarded.
You ppl who think Rex should be fired no nothing. Put it down, if the Jets fire him, he will be the first head coach hired, and he will most likely take a team with am AVERAGE QB deep into the playoffs and I wouldn't be shocked if he wins a super bowl one day. The guy cam coach. It's not his fault that he has been strapped with the worst QB play 3 years in a row. I mean historically bad. But yet he still squeezed out 8, 6, and 5+ wins. He took a team with Sanchez at QB deep into playoffs twice. Wow .... You guys know nothing. Yeah , hire the hot coordinator .... The success rate of those guys are miniscule. Fact! Do some homework. Hiring head coaches is a bigger crapshoot than the draft. You have a proven commodity who would instantly be the prime coach for other teams to hire. Dumb dumb dumb. Good luck with that.
Why are some of you absolving Rex of any responsibility for the weak roster that he has helped to create? When the head coach pounds the table to five first rounders at DL and CB when we had Cromartie, Revis, and Ellis on the roster already (not to mention Pouha and Devito) the buck stops with him when the offense has no one who can block or run a decent route.
Oh yes, lets just sign him to a lifelong extension why dont we for 1 gift wrapped playoff appearance and only one legit run in 2010. Rex is so great he has a sub 500 record after this year and a team in a massive decline in 3 years. I dont think there will be any suiters lining up to sign this guy as their head coach. Teams wont want this guy nowhere near their offense. I'm sure he'll sign on as DC somehwere though but the guy has had 5 years to show us he is a long term coach here and this team isnt getting any better anytime soon...
No, I nitpicked your entire argument because it rested upon faulty logic. There's a difference. I didn't address one draft, I addressed the last 3, and if I wanted to I could've adequately addressed the two prior to that. But yea, I have the reading comprehension deficiency. 'There have been chances over Rex's tenure to grab some offensive talent but instead, the team goes defense at every chance it gets and it has burned him.' Typical. A fan who knocks the choices, but doesn't offer up what we should have done. And btw, how is this an indictment on Rex and not on Tanny? Also, to say we've neglected the offensive side of the ball over the past 5 years is erroneous. We didn't fail to address those positions, instead the parts we've acquired haven't worked out for the long term. Over the last 5 years the team has drafted/signed/traded for what they saw to be: A franchise QB (Sanchez) Two starting RBs (Greene, Powell) A starting FB (Conner) A top WR (Hill) O-linemen (Ducasse, 3-oline in the '13 draft) A starting TE (Keller) Explosive WRs in Braylon and Holmes A change of pace back in Ivory Key complementary players at skill positions like Mason, Schillens, Goodson. I'm not gonna sit here and say these players turned into studs or played at a high level as a Jet, most unfortunately did not. But to say they neglected offense is wrong.
Don't agree at all. Rex will be here next year. We still have to build the offense. The only criticism of Rex I have is that the secondary was playing better with Allen starting over Reed. Aside from the big blown tackle today, Milliner has been improving. In a couple years that kid is going to be good.
Makes sense, except it's not what GMs do. Look how long the Dolphins stuck with Chad Henne without giving him true competition. Look at the "competition" the Jaguars set up for Gabbert. Look at how bad Weeden looked in year one and the "competition" he was given in year two. Idzik drafted Geno and he wants to be right about him. He's going to do everything he can to make himself right. These guys aren't robots. They don't cut bait with guys they championed at the exact moment the percentages tell them to.
If you are on the fence about Ryan then just ask yourself this question? Did you enjoy watching the game yesterday? Because it is the same pattern of the offense not producing and the defense playing great until they are wore down from lack of possession time. I hated watching that shitfest. If Rex stays then buckle up because that is what it will be every week.
I call bullshit on this one. QB Sanchez was five years ago, got jerked around having to play for Sporano and was thrown to the wolves literally in the Giants pre-season game, Round 2 Geno Smith (horrible, horrible pick), Round 5 McElroy (beat out by Simms) RB Round Three Greene (Bust-gone), Round four Powell (3rd string), Round four Ivory (Solid # 2), Round four McKnight (gone), Round six Ganaway (Gana-gone) FB Round Five Conner (Started), Round Seven Bohannon (Starting) OL Round two guard Ducasse (bust), Round three guard Winters (bust), Round five tackle Aboushi (Who?), 3 other sixth round scrubs who have been cut WR Round two Hill (Starting badly), Round five Kerley (Can't stay on field), Round seven White (who?), McKnight (Sanchez pal - gone) TE None, let Keller walk without replacing him Your complimentary players were free agents, they were not drafted. Now how about defense: DL Round 1 Wilkerson, Richardson, Round 3 Ellis LB Round 3 Davis S Round 6 Bush (backup), Round 7 Allen (starter) CB Round 1 Milner, Wilson, Round 2 Cromartie Seems a bit lopsided to me.
Sorry, but no one has to "Take the Fall". Where is it written, or implied that if a team in what was absolutely supposed to be a rebuilding year and so far has won 5 games is a failure and/or someone has to be fired ? Teams, ALL teams have losing seasons and they DON'T fire "Someone" ... By all accounts we were not supposed to win but 3 or 4 games ...We have already exceeded those "expert" expectations, and have actually done pretty decent in a good majority of our games, yeah, we have been horrible in the last few ... We would be absolutely STUPID to even consider firing Rex or Marty ... Lets get a few offensive weapons ( even 1 would be GREAT right now ) and see if things are any better.
I have not enjoyed watching the game. It's been the same trend every year that Rex has been HC, we get worse as the season progresses. You just have to look at the first Pats game when we should have tied that game, poor decision making. Now look how awful that Pats team was and how they have gotten better! We have been blown out by 20 points or more in all but 2 of our losses, never in the game, etc. Simms should have started after the Buffalo game. To all the Rex apologists out there, would Belichik have put Brady in at the end of the 4th quarter against scrubs? Would he have kept starting an awful rookie? This is all on the coach. Every year after the bye I can count on a loss. This is on the coach.
If we had Wlkerson or Richardson (one, not both) and an equally good player on offense perhaps we would be better off. Even worse we had two first rounders this year. We could have used pick 9 to address a need on offense (any offensive need really) and still gotten Richardson anyway.
Our two best players right now are Wilkerson and Richardson. They're the two players on the entire team that offer us some hope moving forward. I wouldn't give up either of them for a chance at a QB right now. You build around QB, OT, DT and DE. That's just how the NFL works. The Jets have two good pieces in that equation now. They have those two good pieces because they recognized that the guys they had on the defensive line were aging and were not star potential anyway. Now they need to go find a QB and surround him with some weapons. They need to slide D'Brick inside to LG after getting him to take a real haircut for cap purposes. They need to go find a LT.
I think Rex is going to survive. My problem with Rex is that he still believes that you win games 17-14. It's an offensive league and its going to stay that way. Rex needs to start believing that you can win games 28-24.
My problem with Rex is a disturbing trend. Three years in a row now his teams have collapsed after a strong start.
