Many, many questions

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  1. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    1. Jets Head Coach

    Rex Ryan (Jets)
    Jon Gruden (broadcast Booth)
    Jason Garret (Cowboys)
    Kevin Sumlin (Texas A&M)
    David Shaw (Stanford)
    Mike Zimmer (Bengals)
    Greg Romasn (49ers)
    Tod Bowles (Cardinals)

    2. Jets startig QB

    Mark Sanzhez
    Matt Simms
    Draft pick
    Jay Cutler
    Rex Grossman
    Shaun Hill
    Homeless squigi guy
    Geno Smith

    3. How many QBs the Jets keep on the roster

    Just one, we're feeling lucky
    Two is plenty
    Three, someone could get hurt
    Four, too soon to cut ______
    Five, the more the merrier

    4. Free agent targets

    5. Draft - 11 picks coming to us this year

    6. The Turk, who is outta here?

    7. Assistant coaching moves, etc.

    Next year things could look very different around here.
     
  2. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I just have to ask you: did watching Matt Simms get buried under the dogpile with no time to do anything but cover his ass do anything for you this week? Did watching his receivers drop balls and fail to get open do anything? Did watching him commit two turnovers in a half of play do anything?

    Anybody who has a list of QB's who are not all-pro caliber who would improve the Jets right now is dreaming. The talent assembled on the offensive side of the field is worse than any such Jets assemblage since at least 2005. And I'm talking after Mawae and Fabini went down.
     
  3. stinkyB

    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    There must be a press conference!!
     
  4. 85inthehall

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    Jets really can't afford to spend a draft pick on a QB, They need to get aggressive through the draft and free agency to bring in as much skill as possible.

    Cut Sanchez, take the cap hit, and bring him back on a one year deal. Let your new skill players develop around a capable QB, and in 2015 go all out for a QB.

    I don't see any current backup QB that would be better than Sanchez with weapons.

    They need to get better in many areas and with Holmes, Cro, and Sanchez off the books there will be money. Taking a small hit to keep Sanchez for a year on an incentive heavy deal wouldn't be a horrible thing.
     
  5. Zach

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    1. I'd take Rex over any of the coaches in the list. If anything, he doesn't lose the locker room like Gruden did with TB.

    2. Starting QB is not a matter that will be resolved quickly. I'd rather take a second tier QB prospect with high upside and ceiling, and let him sit while Geno/Sanchez/FA signing takes a beating. In the meantime, I'd say Jets MUST upgrade their OL coach, and OL in general. They MUST pick 1 OT and 1 OG from the top 4 rounds this year.

    3. Doesn't matter much. I'd say 3. Sanchez should be sent packing [frees up cap space] probably 3, with Geno taking the abuse in the field, Matt Simms playing the backup and the prospect kid learning how not to play QB while waiting for the offensive pieces to fall in.

    4. Will have to see who is available at what cap figure. Jets must NOT make a big splash move. That's what gets you to the bottom of the totem pole.

    5. 3 of the first 4 should go to the offense - OT, TE and WR, preferably. I'd like to see the Jets address either safety or OLB position with GOOD picks once and for all. [This will round up the first three rounds] If Jets do get a comp pick in 3rd, I'd say Jets should grab either OT or LB/S that they didn't pick earlier.

    If Either Aaron Murray or AJ McCarron can be had with low picks [5th and lower] Jets must take a shot at them too. Also, if there is a tall target [TE/WR] that can be had at the low rounds, Jets should take a swipe at them as well.

    6. I don't understand what the question is about, so I'll say nothing

    7. Sanjay Lal, and Michael Devlin should all take a hike after this season.
    Jury is still out on McDonald and BVG [LBs] Who is coaching the secondary this season?
     
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  6. 85inthehall

    85inthehall Well-Known Member

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    I avoid a big name college kid. Find a guy from a team not even ranked or barely ranked. A guy that made his team better by him being behind center. A guy that if he was out the team was lousy -- that is the guy you want - a guy that makes an average team better not a guy that makes a great team what they are supposed to be.
     
  7. Milliner is your Mommy

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    And how many of those Qbs are out there in the NFL right now? Pretty sure all the best QBs to come out recently have all been from highly ranked schools.
     
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    No way either fall out of the 3rd IMO. I would take either in the 3rd in a heartbeat. Would take Murray in the 2nd if he's there.
     
  9. 85inthehall

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    Kapernick , Wislon, Ryan, Big Ben, Romo, Foles, Flacco, Glennon ,Locker, Dalton --

    you don't need to be the QB of the best teams in college football if you are able to bring your team to levels they wouldn't reach without you.
     
  10. James Hasty

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    Off the top of my head I can think of three current starters that came from lower ranked schools

    Cutler - Vanderbuilt
    Rothlisberger - Miami (OH)
    Colin Kaeperninck - University of Necada (Reno)
     
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    I hate Garret, no way Gruden comes here, Sumlin just signed an extension for like 6 years, I like Shaw though. He runs a very good power run play action system over at Stanford.
     
  12. 85inthehall

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    Andy Dalton, Locker and Glennon are obviously better than what we have but they aren't for sure franchise starters right now.

    Foles went to multiple big name schools and Locker still went to Washington which isn't a small market school.

    Really thats just a handful of guys who some are middle of the pack and others are top end.

    You don't need to be a QB from a top team yeah but theres a reason top schools have the best QBs. Its because they can recruit them. Id rather get a QB from a top 25 school. Just not an Alabama type because they have so much talent all around them.
     
  14. 85inthehall

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    Big name schools isn't bad -- but if you made a big name school better by you being there it is more impressive than taking the team with 50 5 star recruits to a BCS game.
     
  15. 101GangGreen101

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    Kevin Sumlin signed an extension earlier this weekend. Want nothing to do with Gruden, or Garrett. Now, Gary Kubiak, could be an interesting coaching prospect. He will be fired this season's end and is widely known as a good offensive coach that can coach offensive players up. We will need someone on the defensive side of the football to keep that young D-line nucleus in-tact
     
  16. James Hasty

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    If we get an offensive coach we can keep our defensive coordinator and all of his assistants.
     
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    The DC is Ryan...no way a new coach keeps the staff.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    In a perfect world yes, but when has this really happened?
     
  19. James Hasty

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    More often that you would think.

    The real question is whether our defensive coordinator can do the job or if he is just holding Rex's clipboard for him.
     

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