to be fair, idzick went straight down the draft board. geno at 39 was good value. when you need a qb and the board matches up you take it. if he pans out your ahead of the game. if you miss, well it was a 2nd round pick, low risk no real money lost. he essentially bought a lotto ticket. $2 to win millions. who doesn't do that?
I agree with BPA strategy for every position BUT QB. If you love a QB, you take him. Period. No matter where. The fact that we passed on him twice before drafting him tells me that no one was in love with him. And not that I'm calling Idzik a liar, but it's the easiest thing in the world to answer any head-scratching move in the draft with "he was the best player on our board." Was he really? Do they make their board public? Who the fuck knows if he really was. And even if he was, is it really that much of a sin to take the next best player on your board? Could have been Kiko Alanso. Could have been Le'veon Bell. Could have been Eddie Lacy. Could have been any one of a dozen studs that wouldn't have caused a total controversy this season that wasn't supposed to be here, and would have stuck with the narrative of "we are building for the future." Instead we tried to buy it now.
The Jets had to take a QB at some point in this draft. The incumbent was a laughingstock who had collapsed at the end of the season two years in row. No choice at all there. The question was where the value was and when Geno fell to the 39 he was that value pick they were going to make at some point or another. If he hadn't been there then we probably see a 3rd round pick out of the group that went in the 4th and if that didn't happen a 6th round pick. The Jets had to bring in somebody because nobody can go into an NFL season with nobody at the QB position and between Sanchez, Garrard and Simms the Jets had nobody.
Yeah I guess you're right and it just sucks that the draft fell the way it did, because if Geno's not hanging there at 39 I don't think we bother until much later. Regardless, I just hope the next five games are definitive - either he is or he isn't. And I just don't feel like, no matter how bad or good he is down the stretch, we're going to have the answer, thus leaving us right back where we started this season - in a leaky boat without a captain.
I'm guessing that if Geno pulls it together some down the stretch the Jets will go heavy on weapons and maybe an offensive lineman early next draft. If he can't pull it together they may have to take a QB depending on how their board falls. I think they're taking a QB at some point next year. The question is do they prioritize the QB position or just go looking for a competition/backup guy to get some seasoning while Geno either succeeds or fails. Until the Jets get some receivers and resolve some of the o-line issues nobody they bring in is going to be going gangbusters.
Because at that time Miliner and Richardson were BPA http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-netwo...000288607/Do-Jets-need-to-draft-a-quarterback
I agree with Casserly, wholeheartedly. Keep kicking the tires on QBs. Next year we go into a true competition with Geno and the new rookie QB. Best approach.
I disagree. The Jets could of drafted play-makers at the WR and TE position and waited until a good QB was available in the draft in 2014. They could of signed a veteran via FA, they could of approached things differently then waste a 2nd rounder on a project QB with crap at the WR / TE position. Geno was never the answer for the Jets, I said this multiple times in the off-season. We would of been better off drafting WRs and TEs. I would of went with Sanchez or Garrard for the year and got a QB in the 2014 draft.
Boy oh boy I am sad after reading thru this thread that there really so many biased homers on this board. Hopefully you ALL realize that we are now plowing thru our 44th straight year of LOSING. That's right 44 years of non winning & I bet that is longer then most of you are alive who posted in this thread. Thankfully there is now Twitter (sorry Petro) where at least you can obtain unbiased NYJ news as the TGG has turned to be very difficult to have a normal conversation on this board due to the bias that prevails on this board JMHO.
You need continuity at the position, it just doesn't help other positions of need to keep fishing for a QB every single year in the draft.
Right on. That is one thing that worries me about Idzik. It displays a poor level of talent evaluation. Hopefully this will change with a scouting department overhaul in place for next year.
We did that, and ended up with Sanchez, skipping out on QB's like Russel Wilson, Kirk Cousins, etc. Because they were "sticking with their guy".
I agree with the Rex Ryan and Ed Reed analysis. Rex is WAY too loyal to his favorites, and NFL players have shelf lives. I never liked the Reed signing, The 2-9 Texans cut him, which should tell ya something.The jets have the worst point differential in the ENTIRE NFL--That obviously speaks volumes about your offense AND your defense. With the worst point differential in the NFL, someone tell me again what a great coach Rex Ryan is.
You forgot the Jaguars at -182. By that measure he's close to the best coach in the NFL at this point. Nobody else has 3 wins they shouldn't have based on the personnel and point differential. BTW, Rex has come a long way since 2009. That year he had a good team handcuffed by a rookie QB and he won 9 games with a point differential that would have suggested 11 wins. This year he has a bad team handcuffed by a rookie QB and he's kept the team afloat all year. That's real growth.
Hindsight 20/20. Also as I said I think in this thread, Russell Wilson would not have the tools he would have had as a Jet. We don't have a Marshawn Lynch or young, fast WRs like Tate, Baldwin, Kearse or have an awesome defense(Though the Hawks Run D has been not as advertised this year). Wilson would have been asked to do more as a Jet and not get eased in like he did with Seattle. Also Cousins hasn't proven anything. Nice, intriguing prospect but Flynn had 1-2 quality games as well and we've seen what happened to him in the long haul. Also Sanchez's contract extension heading into the draft gave the Jets the feel that they didn't need to spend a pick on the position. That and Mr T. had a fetish for trading up that cost us picks so we went with other spots with the limited picks we had that year(Tebow trade cost us a 4th)
