See Ken Dorsey for reference. Have to be very wary about taking a college QB's success on a powerhouse team and translating that at the next level. I do like McCarron's intangibles though if the Jets decide to draft 2 QB's and can snag AJ in the late rounds.
ken dorsey won alot of games for the U too. i am not big on qb's that come from powerhouse teams with multiple early round draft picks on it. they tend to stay pretty flat as far as developing in the league. give me small school guys who put up stats with a couple of late rounders,udfa, and future insurance salesmen as their targets. those guys tend to have a leg up as far as not leaning on their first reads and going through progressions. they have to find the open man because their first read isn't an nfl ready wr owning an overmatched cb. look at the top qb's in the league. no power house alumni in there beat me to it jetnation06. well played sir
The state of the Jets talent, particularly on offense, is nowhere near good enough for them to reach for any position at this point. If a QB is the best player available on any of their picks I'd expect them to take him. Likewise I expect them to take any WR who is on top of their board wherever they find them. Right now there are about the same number of QB's and WR's that look like they will have a 1st round grade next year. The QB's seem to be ranked a bit higher. The Jets pick looks like it will be a bit lower. So WR is marginally a more likely take than QB in the 1st round next year.
What do you folks think about Keith Price? He has experience in a pro style offense and could be drafted late. Maybe he didn't put up the numbers that Geno did in college, but he might be more ready to pick up and understand the west coast offense. I'm willing to admit that this could be a bad, even awful idea, but I'd rather see picks in the first 3 rounds go to getting some talent at WR, TE, or even OL. Not to mention the gaping hole at S and some need for depth at OLB. As great as Manziel, Bridgewater, and Mariota are, how much better can they do without more reliable targets or some more protection up front? I'm not as willing as some of you guys to throw out a 2nd round draft pick after one season. Yes, bring in competition somehow, but it's too early to draft high or sign some high-profile free agent for big money. Nick Foles, a 3rd round pick, has won a competition against Vick and had some impressive games even though he was less than great his rookie year. Now Foles got his chance because Vick got hurt, but he knew that he was going to have to steal the job during Vick's absence to keep it. This isn't to say that Geno is Foles or that the Eagles are the Jets, just that guys can improve from game to game and year to year with the right incentive.
Apparently he thinks he will be back in 14 - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...k-sanchez-hopes-new-york-jets-keep-him-around
Please don't compare Geno to Foles. I've probably analyzed foles more than anyone else on this board and I can tell you they are night and day as players. Foles metrics coming into the draft said possible good to elite qb. Geno's said likely bust. Foles had a greatly promising rookie campaign, per game stats on par with Luck, rg3, Wilson, he just went unnoticed by media because he started playing in like week 7 and the media doesn't know shit, they are still trying to bash him down because he's not one of their chosen ones. nothing like Geno. we absolutely have to draft another qb.
If Geno keeps up his shitty play for the rest of the year. Then you have to draft one if one falls into your lap.
It would be interesting if we kept Geno, Sanchez and drafted another QB. They could all play cards with Simms as dealer on the sideline. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
Draft? absolutely. Geno pick shouldn't have been spent on him. Kiko Alonso would have looked fucking fantastic in green and white - and Jets needed a good OLB prospect anyway.
I would love to grab Derek Carr and Davante Adams. They both have great chemistry, and I think a rookie QB should have someone he is familiar with. When we took Geno I was hoping we would get Stedman Bailey.
Stay away from Derek Carr. This is the first eye check - if the kid is dumb as a doorknob, he will not survive in the NFL as a QB. Derek Carr surely is.
No. whats the point? Its just another year of learning curve for another player thats gonna struggle and we'll get pissed at that guy too when he's not an instant answer under the false impression that rookies show their ceiling in the first year, as if thats how that works. Weapons, offensive line, these are the priorities unless its just obvious, unless picking anyone else BUT a certain QB would be a reach, in which case of course they should pick a QB. To me this rookie every year strategy sounds like a brilliant way to continue handicapping the teams progress. still unsure of Geno at starter? bring in a veteran, we don't need youth competing with youth next season though, especially not at the expense of choosing a potentially high end WR for the long haul.
The last QB I got excited about coming into the draft was Matt Ryan . I disagree that a QB can't be NFL ready, I don't have stats to hand, but watching Ryan play at BC it was obvious that he would be. I agree with Tony , stop drafting rookie QBs every year, lets build up the arsenal first then see what we have Sent from my wey aye phone using Tapatalk - now Free
Finally got a chance to watch the video (no volume on work computer) and agree with Casserly. He is not saying that we have to take a QB no matter what (or even to trade up fro one) but he is saying that if the best player available when we pick is a quarterback that we should not pass him up on account of Geno Smith. From his perspective Smith could get better and might become the starting QB but right now our commitment to him is limited (cap hit, etc.) and that the chance that he becomes a franchise SB winning QB is on the low side. If we offer Sanchez a roster spot and a chance to compete for the starting job he would probably take it. For all of you guys that want Sanchez gone there are four options: 1. Geno plays very well down the stretch (you would have better odds with lotto) 2. We use a # 1 pick on a QB (this could leave us weak elsewhere) 3. We sign an expensive free agent to be the man (we may have to look to the draft alone to fill our other holes) 4. We draft a QB in round 2-7 that is the second coming of Brett Favre (another lotto situation)
gotta agree with Casserly... Idzik should do what he did in 2013 and apparently with the Seahawks and Bucs take the BPA with each selection in each round regardless of position. If that player is a QB when the Jets draft between 16-19 with their 8-8 or 9-7 record, then we should take that QB....if not, not
Bill Walsh was a firm believer that you draft a QB every year so it's a no brainer that we do that. I've been a JETS fan for a long time so I totally get the frustration but to give up on Geno because of a tough rookie year is just ridiculous. I still think the kid's going to show up and be a good QB. Just look at Luck's struggles this season. RG3 trying to come back to form after injury. Things just change so quickly. Do I want competition for Geno? Yes Would I love to see Sanchez back to compete? Yes Would I love to see us dedicate ourselves to revamping this offense the way we have the defense in the last 4 seasons? Yup I think both Sanchez & Geno in a MM offense with some weapons could both flourish. Lets see what happens.
I would also look to bring either Rex Grossman or Shaun Hill into our QB derby. From what we have seen of them when they have replaced injured starters they may actually be able to hold the fort until we get this QB of the future thing figured out. Either one should come cheap and Rex has experience playing in the SB.
