I just compared the first 3 full seasons. Season 4 is being used as the reason why Sanchez sucks, but season 4 was a failed experiment with Sporano, tebow, a make shift receiving core, and Greene being a featured back. i don't think season 4 is a true reflection on the development of any player on the Jets roster
Im going to shock you here because you used one word that will let me agree with you a bit...and thats Sporano. Still...when you have a resume...a very good qb would have done much better than he did. Guys..again..we can argue until there is no more left and the bottom line is this for me. Im 53 years old. I have struggled with this team for decades. I have watched this division give birth to a Dan Marino..and Jim Kelly (both who never could win the big ones) but still let them for the most part, dominate this division. Then Brady comes along...more dominance. Its been decades since the Jets had that qb that allowed them to DREAM of entering the dance..year in..year out. I want that qb in the next 2 or 3 years. It has to happen. For that reason alone...I do not want to find out..find out...if Mark Sanchez is better than even the Sanchez of the first couple years..or if Geno Smith will all of a sudden have that it factor..because there is nothing this year that has the smell of potential..nothing. Its time..finally..for the Jets to find a star qb. A guy that makes them relevant year in and year out..and Im not stupid..they dont grown on trees..but they do grow. I want him...or her...thats how desperate many of us have become.
Here is the issue -- the jets will lose at least two skill players in the offseason - winslow and holmes. Now say you draft a QB in round 1..you need to go rookie skill players in round 2-5. That doesn't make it easy for a rookie QB to succeed. What Sanchez would do would allow you to address pure skill in the draft and free agency. Get them all together playing for a year than in 2015 you go for that QB in the draft with a supporting cast around him that will help him develop.
Those that don't have happy thoughts are probably miserable people in real life. I have been following this franchise for 30 years now and the closest we ever got to a SB was w/ Mark Sanchez. That means something to me, I had so much fun winning those 4 playoff games and having a chance at 2 SBs and we've never experienced anything like it in all my years following this team. I appreciate what Mark did for our franchise, I hope someday we see similar results and eventually get over the hump. It's hard to win in this league, some of the greats w/ more talent don't win at the same % mark won in January, when you have a guy you can win w you don't throw him away but that is exactly what we did. After throwing him away we thought anyone would be better than Mark and geno was the man for the next decade. How's that working for us?
Couple things. I only see Sanchez as having 1 terrible season (2012) NOT 2. Only Jets fans would consider 2011 as awful. A 3rd year QB accounting for 32 TDs in a season with questionable weapons is NOT regression no matter how you slice it. In my eyes, 2011 was progress. Following that season, I was expecting similar TD production with less turnovers. That didn't happen; instead he took several steps towards the other direction. It's been well documented who was to blame which includes Sanchez who was probably mainly responsible. Restructuring his contract to what would, AT MOST, equate to a 1 year audition is NOT dismissing anything. It's taking a step back and looking at his entire 4 years as a whole rather than making an emotional knee-jerk reaction based on recent results. I think our initial investment and his playoff performances merits the opportunity to compete for the job, that for the first time in yearsr has a PROVEN OC at the helm.
You won't get an answer to that question as that it requires thought. Suckchez, buttfumble, blah, blah is so much easier.
I have a feeling.... That sanchez will be our week 1 starter next season with maybe a stud WR like the kid from A&M.
we made 4 title games in my lifetime: 1982: lost 14-0 1998: lost 23-10, trailed by double digits entering 4th qtr 2009: lost 30-17- same margin as 1998 but we trailed by only 3 in the 4th qtr 2010: lost 24-19, closest loss we were closer in 2009 and 2010 than at any point since SB III
I'm sorry, what you are saying makes no sense. How does signing a guy to a 1 year deal just to compete equate to hitching your wagon? No one is asking for a covenant. Note the new regime for the 2009 49ers did the exact same thing with Alex Smith. All he was promised was the opportunity, and he ended up not winning the job.
I do not need nor want to understand the hate. What we all have in common is that we are all Jets fans. I'm trying to come up with solutions. If not Sanchez next year, then who?
Just think the 98 team was the best overall team we had in an AFC championship game,yes its debatable but i say 98 was the best.
You are separating these 2 mindsets as though they can not co-exist. Keeping Sanchez for a year because he is "... flat out better than what we have [at the moment]" does NOT mean we take a "REST" from finding a great QB. I hate to keep using the Alex Smith comparison but it's fitting. Harbaugh inherited Smith but still drafted Kaepernick. Smith held the forth until Kaepernick was ready. The Patriots had Bledsoe, but got rid of him once they realized that their great QB was a skinny 6th round draft pick. Packers had Favre and still drafted Rodgers as he was a great value pick for them when he slid down in the 05 draft. It's the Sanchez haters that can't seem to walk and chew gum at the same time.
I think '98 was the best team too but Denver was the best team we faced in a title game. we were only down 3 at Indy, pulled w/in a score late in Pitt- we were closer to winning those games than the Mia or Den games.
Aaron Murray blowing up his ACL doesn't help the QB draft sweepstakes in that one prospect who otherwise might've been available by the time the Jets pick will probably be gone. Question is, who do you draft? The Jets have needs at WR, OL, OLB, TE, S and QB. Obviously you don't want to draft based on need when greater BPA value/talent is usually sitting there, so where to go come draft day? If you don't have a QB, you're going nowhere. And if your QB has nothing around him, he's going nowhere. So draft-wise they're kind of in a "chicken or the egg?" quandary. Of course you'd rather get your QB in place but drafting a sure thing at QB is more hit-or-miss than WR. So now the question: at what spot does it look like the Jets will be drafting from, and what QB in this supposedly "QB-rich" draft will still be available when they pick?
Better off having quality skill around a rookie than having rookie qb and rookie skill. It's not all the time a rookie skill player comes in and excels with a rookie QB. Dalton/Green did a nice job in Cinci but that is not the norm.
Only if Sanchez keeps the cornrows. Another great move for his public perception, by the way. If/when Sanchez doesn't return to the Jets, it'll be interesting to see all the good teams loaded with talent who are banging down the door for Sanchez. Because, surely, what team wouldn't want such a talented guy with his impressive resume from 3-4 years ago on their roster? It'll be a lot of fun when Sanchez signs elsewhere and all of the smart posters, who keep referring to him as a winner, are proven correct -- because, surely, if he leaves here, he'll take his winning ways to the next team. Right? Isn't that what happens, isn't that the norm for talented players with impressive (outdated) resumes?
Ugh, what does other have to do with OUR situation? Again, instead of wasting your intelligence on what you perceive to be witty sarcastic posts, why not apply it to something constructive like answering the question: WHAT THE FUCK DO WE DO ABOUT THE QB POSITION NEXT YEAR?
