As "better" as Sanchez was why he couldn't outperform Geno to the point where he didn't have to play in the 4th quarter of a meaningless preseason game?
Instead of the usual vague responses of "turn the page", "need new blood", blah, blah, can we get specific players that the Jets will be in position to get that will solve our QB problem next season?
He badly outperformed him, it wasn't close but the GM wanted him to play so the charade competition continues and it sabotaged our season.
How can a guy win 4 playoff games and be "toxic". Even for the most ardent of Sanchez haters, isn't that a bit extreme? I know many of you guys feel he lucked his way into those 4 playoff wins. Let's say in anyone of those 2 seasons, the luck extended 1 more game and we make it to the SB, maybe even win it, would you still feel this way?
you don't understand, Jet fans spit on 4 playoff wins and 2 title game apps as we are used to nothing but Super Bowls, anything less than a dominating SB performance isn't good enough.
Once again if Sanchez "badly outperformed him" and if it wasn't "close" you think Idzik is that much of a moron to disregard Sanchez "outperforming" Geno just to start his guy? That makes no sense. I watched the preseason games and Sanchez looked like shit. Considering how bad Geno is, this is a bigger indictment on Sanchez that he couldn't even beat him out. That in itself is the biggest reason why it's time to move on from Sanchez.
Sanchez has never been seen as anything but a stand up guy, good teammate, good locker room presence...even this season before his surgery he was always trying to help and guide Geno. Matt Moore has been mentioned -- what has he done in Miami that make syou think he is better than anyone currently under contract? 59% compl, 33 TD 26 INT, 15 Fumb, 80 rating, never played 16 games?? people think there is some mystery backup that will come in and lead the Jets you are dreaming. Sanchez with all his faults did win games and with less talent than Geno last season played hard and never spoke out against the coaching staff and tebow. He isn't toxic , he isn't the worst QB ever, he isn't the best qb ever, but he is a guy that will come in to camp and compete. He also buys a year if needed to incorporate new skill players and set the team up to draft/sign a qb in 2015 to a team with some weapons.
I think when people refer to him as toxic..they mean everything that is wrong with this team. There are many stories of qbs that do some good things for a couple years and then just flounder. While Sanchez did play qb is some great wins, I find it hard to believe how some posters dismiss what he did the past few years. I mean...thats some record breaking stuff with turnovers. I would view toxic as some of the things Sanchez did reminds many old time Jet fans why this team is the laughing stock in the NFL. Butt fumble blah blah blah. Is it fair to blame that all on Sanchez? No...but its hard to dismiss the awful play the past few years. Some like to blame this and that but those numbers? For me its a matter of moving on. While some like to point out he outplayed Smith in the preseason..I wouldnt even argue with that. With that said..it wasnt pretty either..and he did many things that just reminded many of us of his play the past few seasons. Nobody played good enough to qb in the preseason..well..one guy did but he did it against 3rd stringers..I guess.
yes I think Idzik is that much of a moron b/c he did it. Sanchez looked fine in preseason, geno looked like crap and that has also been the case most of the reg season.
Sanchez may have had success in this system, but we'll never know. The guy just cant be a Jet anymore. It's not all his fault, but it just wouldnt be a good idea.
I firmly believe the chances of Sanchez being on the roster next year are between slim and none. Among other considerations, it is ridiculous to think that Idzik would hitch his future prospects to the player who was the main reason his predecessor got fired. Not going to happen.
Because of what Sanchez brings to mind. He can't live off those two AFCCG appearances particularly since both games were losses. When one thinks of Sanchez, only his most ardent Supporters have happy thoughts. The rest of us, not so much. Most of us will remember the turnovers, the buttfumble, the hairband, the pick 6's. No one cares if Sanchez has 4 playoff wins mainly because they didn't translate into anything greater. No one except Sanchez fans and followers want to see him taking snaps for the Jets again. Just like no Knick fan in his right mind would want Isiah Thomas on the bench coaching the Knicks again. Not even James (Guitar Jimmy) Dolan wants to see that again. You said it best. IF Sanchez could have extended his run one more game, things most certainly would be different. Almost isn't good enough. The goal is to win the SB, not show up for the AFCCG. Had Sanchez lead this team to the SB and lost, the memories would be a lot less painful and the attitude towards Sanchez a lot less hostile. To Sanchez fans, they don't understand the hate. To the rest of us, We're done with Sanchez and for the most part, he is indeed Toxic. That's still better than last year when he was Radioactive.
Bingo...and there is where this arugment can go on until everyone is blue in the face. There will never be any kind of agreement because there are two mindsets. And please dont think Im talking down one compared to another. The two mindsets: 1. Sanchez is just flat out better than what we have. He won playoff games and had a few bad years..but he is better than what we have. God knows how well the next qb we bring in will do. We are not bringing in a Manning..or a Brady. We either have the roll the dice on another draft pick or go out and get someones number 2 who everyone loves...but has never really did it on his own. Not very comforting..I get that. Second mindset: Look around the league at the the best teams in the NFL. Who is the qb? Name the great teams that just have a decent starter? To win and compete EVERY YEAR..EVERY YEAR...you need a star qb....and as a Jet fan..we will not rest until we find him. He is not Geno Smith...he is not Mark Sanchez. He might even be Matt Simms? Thats how desperate we are as Jet fans..we would even give Simms a shot. Again...I get both arguements...but I agree with the second one. I WANT A GREAT QB AND WILL NOT REST UNTIL I FIND HIM. Sorry for the bold but Im just trying to explain how deeply many Jet fans feel about not settling on a qb because he won 4 playoff games managing a team a few years ago..but then had 52 turnovers the past few years. Everyone can go on and defend Sanchez play those years until they are blue in the face...its just that even if you are right..you will never convince me that Sanchez is a qb that can put a team on his shoulder in even down years and somehow get them into the playoffs.
Compare these numbers. Would you be happy with either of these QBs leading the Jets next season? 52.8 24TD 17INT 7Fum 75.9 57.7 24TD 18INT 7Fum 77.0 56.1 23TD 20INT 9Fum 73.9 ELI Manning Season 1-3 ______________________________________ 53.8 12TD 20INT 8Fum 63.0 54.8 17TD 13INT 5FUM 75.3 56.7 26TD 18INT 4Fum 78.2 Mark Sanchez Season 1-3 (Season 4 for Sanchez was a disaster on a organizational level) Sanchez is more than capable of coming back and holding the fort, allowing new skill players develop, maybe help Geno learn how to be a better qb, and in 2015 you readdress the QB situation.
That's what many would say about Vick before MM (2001-2006) and Alex Smith in his first 4 years in the NFL (2005-2008). Both were very inaccurate QBs with completion percentages lower than even, wait for it, Mark Sanchez. Under the WCO both QBs maintained completion percentages over 60%. So the scheme can make a QB more accurate. McNabb is another example.
NO MORE SANCHEZ! His time here is over. I see no reason to keep him. We already have 1 bad QB in Geno, we don't need more.
So the decision to play Sanchez in the 4th quarter of a meaningless game in which he ends up being hurt was Sanchez's fault? SMH...Wow mind blown.
wait...where is season 4? Am i missing something? Was it left out because it was a diaster on a organizational level? He had nothing to do with that? Am i reading this wrong?
