I had such high hopes for hill after that bills game, but what do you expect when you draft a guy high, an he only had a handful of receptions in college
Millner. At least has the college pedigree going for him. Hill, as I've stated from Day 1, is utter garbage.
We have a history of doing this, I'm not odl enough to remember the Lam Jones draft pick but I remember him being on the team but I remeber Parcells drafting a QB out of Nebraska to play safety named Scott Frost. I still have hopes for Hill, he has the physical tools but he also hasn't exactly had a consistent QB throwing to him either. Demariyus Thomas was an average player until Manning became his QB. Yes Hill is a below average WR right now but have we had anything but below average QB play the last 2 years?
Demariyus is head and shoulders a more complete and talented WR than Hill could ever dream of being. Hill's not a natural fluid WR. Those projects rarely pan out in the NFL.
It really is hard to judge a guy when he is not getting the targets and the QB just simply isn't playing well. Hill will be a solid player down the road for us. He simply needs time to grow. He is being pressed into playing a lot because we really don't have anyone else. Like I said previously, the guy is nothing but a decoy if we're gonna play conservative as hell. When Geno goes downfield, Hill is productive. When we only throw hitches and screens, he is ineffective. As Geno grows, so will Hill and so will the rest of this young team.
I think people are still forgetting that Hill has essentially disappeared since taking a hit to the head. Prior to that he was looking improved and since he has been a shadow of himself. To me that reeks of concussion related issues. Someone posted some stats a few weeks back--I will see if I can find them--but it is really dramatic the difference before and after that hit. I wonder if the Jets are hiding something or have missed something. After all, Hill wouldn't be the first player to have taken a head hit and either never recovered or took a long time.
Milliner is a rook, holding his own at one of the toughest positions on the field, after missing camp and battling hamstring problems. He will be fine. Hill is a non-entity on the field in his second season. His lack of production is alarming.
Hill just doesn't fight to get open. Struggles in press coverage, doesn't have good hands and runs shitty ass routes. He can't run a post every time out. How many times have you seen this guy catch an 8 yard hitch and fail to lower the shoulder and drive the 190 pound corner back 2 yards to get the first? He's a freak athlete, a bad football player. At least right now, and I'm getting fuckin sick of seeing him blanketed by a smaller, slower corner. I think he is part of the problem on offense, and we need TWO new starting calibre WRs next year.
id love to know what game Mr Green Pants it surely isn't anything with the Jets. Maybe he is still watching his Alabama highlights on youtube.
Hill was targeted 7x yesterrday and everytime, the DB was right in his back pocket. He just can't run good routes and DBs can read what he is going to be before he even does it. Its sad that he has now been in the NFL 2 years now and can only run one route. With his side and speed, he should be producing or outleast use his physical talents to make smaller DBs look bad but he doesnt. Another garbage pick by this team.
Wow...the mention of Scott Frost got me to thinking and I did some looking. The dude lasted 5 years in the league. I was shocked about that...but you know what the BIGGEST shocker was??? My man is the Offensive Coordinator the Oregon Ducks!! I'm a huge Pac12 guy and how did I miss this?? That is one colossal offense he runs over there. Interesting.....
Just to be clear, before you go giving him way too much credit, the offense that Frost "runs" at Oregon was the brainchild of Chip Kelly and Mark Helfrich. So I wouldn't act like it was Frost who is behind the Ducks high octane offense. He just happened to be working under two offensive gurus and got promoted when Kelly moved on.
Oh I get that...absolutely. BUT, it takes a smart man to realize what works, learn it, maintain it and continue to manage/perfect it. It's no different than all those guys that learned Walsh's system and carried it forward. Just caught me off guard is all. :smile:
Hill is being asked to do something that he is not capable of doing: to be a starting WR in the NFL. When you ask a player to do something they are not capable of doing the results tend to look exactly like Hill's results. He's invisible. Whatever you think of Sanchez performance last year it didn't help that one of his main targets was not capable of doing the job. Hill's role on this team should be as a 4th receiver brought in occasionally to spread the defense out and force them to send a guy deep with him. If he suddenly started making some plays in that role then maybe you think about moving him up the depth chart.
