I understand the context just fine. If your only argument against some one is to call thier post fiction and dismiss then then your really not worth talking to. Bradway is making a point for Eli to be a borderline NFL QB that may not have made it other differEnt circumstances. Your response is nothing but childish antics. Quit acting like a fucking kid or I'll continue to view you as little more than one.
I don't care how you view me, you can't even comprehend what I'm talking about. The post is not fiction you little fucking kid, the CONCEPT is fiction. What part don't you understand? Again I didn't call his post fiction, the scenario he posted was fiction. How can anyone make a legitimate argument based upon a theory of what COULD have happened had history been rewritten. That is called FICTION. Seriously, go buy a clue, you have no idea what you are talking about. You messed up and don't understand the narrative, just let it go instead of continuing your childish antics. _
If Eli had come out a year earlier, he might have been drafted by Sean Payton and he would have developed him into the greatest QB in the history of the NFL. Better than Peyton. That's fiction, just like imagining that had he come out a year earlier he never makes it in the NFL. It's fictional made up BS. Cannot be proven one way or another. Fiction. _
Kiper was on Mike and Mike this am and said he has moved Manziel up to 12 on his latest board. Said he was skeptical on him coming into the year but his play this season has totally changed his mind. His arm is a lot stronger than he thought, he has MUCH more arm talent than he thought and has been completing a higher % of passes form the pocket than--I think he said--anyone in college football. His biggest knock was that he was running around and throwing the ball and couldn't throw from the pocket but this year that hasn't necessarily been the case--he's been incredibly accurate from the pocket. Also he thinks some of the earlier off-season stuff is kind of fading and his competitiveness on the field is REALLY shining through. Said his size doesn't bother him much anymore given what Russell Wilson is showing. _
Only caught some of Clemson switching back and forth with the Colts-Titans game but Boyd looked pretty good. 20-26 for 340, 4 TDs, 1 INT, 1 rushing TD, but he bruised his shoulder in the 3rd quarter and sat the rest of the game. Guy has a very quick release. _
How many sophomore QB's have ever been picked in the NFL draft, let alone very high in the 1st round? Any? I still think this is one of two things, either a huge puff of smoke that the media has blown or a completely hysterical outbreak by the NFL in the face of the concussion lawsuits. Nothing suggests that these guys, the sophomores, are going to do anything more than run into the hardest wall of their lives.
Of course you are right. Because something has rarely or never happened, it is impossible for it to ever happen. If Mariota and Manziel come out this year they will be out of the league in 3 years. And if they stay one more year they'll be perennial pro bowlers. Pretty sure that's how it works. _
Impossible, he's only a red shirt sophomore. He needs to go back and play yet ANOTHER year throwing for 300-400 yards and 4-5 TDs a game again, maybe win a THIRD Heisman because clearly 2 years of that isn't enough. Red shirt sophomores that have only started (or will have started) 26 games at the highest level in the SEC which is the highest most NFL-like level in the NCAA can't make it in the NFL because....well because it just never happens. Nor will it. Ever. Probably. :rofl: _
It's just a fool's errand to claim that something big is going to change before that change has occurred. 99% of the time you're wrong because there are good reasons that the thing you are predicting has never happened in the past. If one of the sophomores was picked up high the odds are he'd be going to a crappy organization which had trouble developing QB's which is why they had the high pick in the first place. People don't look at that X factor often enough but one of the reasons that QB's taken high in the first round are so unpredictable is the organizations that try to develop them. Ok, so let's say the NFL does the right thing in evaluating the young guys and basically tells them to stay in school for another year because they're not likely to be high picks. Then if one of them comes out the odds are pretty good they go lower in the first round and maybe wind up with an organization that can develop a young QB without falling all over itself and stepping on him in the process. Maybe they get really lucky and wind up on the Giants or the Steelers or the Packers, teams that have a track record of developing young QB's recently. Then they'll sit for a year or two while the incumbent keeps on going and they have a much better chance of turning into a good NFL QB. If any of them have to play next year, particularly for a team without much talent on the roster the scenario just has disastrous ending written all over it.
Lol, I live in the real world. The NFL is not in the business of doing "the right thing" to make you happy, they are going to do what is right for themselves. If they view Marcus Mariota as the next great franchise QB, no one is telling him to stay in school and he isn't dropping to the 28th pick so NE or GB or Denver can take him. Seriously, if we're going to talk draft, let's not talk about fantasy stuff. If Mariota comes out he's going top 5. If Manziel comes out he's going top 15. You might not like it, you might think it's "not the right thing", but it's the reality of the situation. By the way, since we're talking about stuff that has never happened as a predictor of the future, no freshman has ever won the Heisman trophy. Except when one did. And another may win one this year. Not that Heismans mean anything in the pros, but still. Never is never until it happens- which it will. These QBs are changing, not sure guys need to stay 3-4 years anymore. Not when they are playing THIS prolifically year 1 and year 2. _
Just looked at the standings, you realize Minny (fast track, dome, Adrian Petersen, Greg Jennings, Cord Patterson, a healthy Rudolph) could take him at 3 or 4 and be set for a decade. Or maybe the Steelers could grab him at 4 or 5 and let him sit for a year or 2 until Big Ben gets traded? You know the Giants only have 3 wins? _
Here's the funny thing. I'm watching Jameson Winston closely for the first time (because he's crushing my Orangemen) and he's throwing the ball as good as anyone I've ever seen. 10-10 for 104 and he's fitting it into incredibly tight windows and on the fingertips and with incredible zip. These are different athletes than the last 25-30 years- some of these guys are INCREDIBLE how much arm talent the have. I don't think some of these guys NEED to play 3-4 years. Have you seen Winston? Is this guy going to suck in the NFL because he comes out after next year? He might be the greatest QB in the history of the NFL (hyperbole for effect), you're not drafting him number 1 in 2015 if he comes out? Every GM that doesn't draft him should get fired. Lol, just because it's never happened it CAN'T happen? Winston is probably better than 10 starting QBs in the NFL right now. But he should stay in school till 2016. Wow. _
Mariota really hobbled with his knee. He needs to get healthy, but he can still sling it. 9-9 for 100 and a TD. Probably needs another 2 years in college. _
Mariota seriously needs to go back to college for 2 years. 64%, 22 TDs. Zero INTs. He needs to be at 79% with 60 TDs and negative 8 INTs. _
Apologies. 25 TDs, zero INTs. And 9 rushing TDs. Maybe he can petition for a third year, he obviously needs it. No way this guy can compete in the NFL next year. Or 2015. _
