The Geno Smith "Era" (Official Geno Thread) - All Geno Talk in here!

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  1. cval

    cval Well-Known Member

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    I would not either what I would do is bring in a quality Veteran and if Geno does not continue to develop bring in the Vet.
     
  2. Big Blocker

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    Ftr I agree with you here. In effect if Smith has not closed the deal, and assuming either Simms does not get a chance to show his stuff or does and does not close the deal, either, then yes, they should go BPA even if a Qb is on the board.

    No predictions here, but in a draft heavy with Qb talent, this in fact is far from an unlikely scenario.
     
  3. Mitch_Dumstein

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    + a billion

    Best available football player with all 12 picks in all seven rounds...

    Like you did in 2013, Mr I.
     
  4. n3putts

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    This is what David Lee thinks about Geno

    FLORHAM PARK, N.J. (AP) ? Geno Smith's relationship with his position coach got off to a rocky start.

    The New York Jets rookie quarterback arrived late for a meeting a few months ago, and David Lee let him have it.

    No coddling. No kid gloves. No tolerance.

    "I went nuts on him and he had to learn," Lee recalled. "You're not late ever. For anything."

    Lesson learned, and a bond forged.

    "I'm just dead-honest with him and pour out my heart and I want him to be the same way with me," Lee said Monday. "And I think it's why we've got a great relationship today because we're both really honest with each other."

    Lee has been an instrumental part of Smith's development from the day the Jets drafted the former West Virginia star in the second round in April. Smith has praised Lee along the way for helping him adapt to life as an NFL starting quarterback.

    The road has been far from smooth, with a roller-coaster ride of nine games mixed with impressive moments and frustrating mistakes. Smith's performance has mirrored the team's overall season with a curious trend of alternating good games and bad games, wins and losses.

    "He's been hot and cold," Lee said. "He's been really hot and brought as back to win three or four games there in the fourth quarter. And then he's been cold and he's hurt us."

    While leading the Jets to a 5-4 record that's good enough to currently hold a playoff spot, Smith has eight touchdown passes and 13 interceptions. He also became the first player since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger with four winning drives in fourth quarter or overtime in his first seven games.

    Smith has tantalizing talent, highlighted by a rocket arm and ability to make plays with his legs. But he's been wildly inconsistent. In odd-numbered weeks, Smith has seven touchdowns and four interceptions; and one TD and nine INTs in even-numbered weeks.

    "Every single area, every single thing needs to improve," Smith said. "That's never going to stop. I'm going to always try and find ways to get better and even if it's one small thing, even if it's something that may not be that effective in a game, something I need to improve on, so every single part of my game needs to improve."

    It's that kind of drive that has impressed Lee, as well as the rest of the Jets' coaching staff.

    "Right now, he's improving weekly and he improves on things that he screws up, which is what is encouraging to me," Lee said. "Geno is smart and he prepares. He's in this building at 6 a.m. every day. It's not a mistake when he knows what he's doing."

    The Jets want the season to play out before deciding whether Smith will be the guy under center for the next several years. Lee, who has coached quarterbacks in college and the pros for nearly 40 years, likes what he sees so far.

    "I've had long enough to feel good about him and his future here with us," Lee said.

    Perhaps the most impressive thing has been Smith's even-keeled approach ? in wins and losses ? acting anything but a wide-eyed rookie.

    "He is the calmest guy," Lee said. "I mean he goes out in pregame warmups, he's calm. We come in beat New England, he's just as calm as can be. I just wanted to slap him, say, 'Hey, we won.' He's really calm and that's a great trait to have as a quarterback with the pressure that's on all these games."

    Added tight end Konrad Reuland: "He makes a bad play or has a bad game, he's Mr. Steady. He doesn't go down in the dumps. His confidence never wavers."

    Smith will stay in New Jersey during the bye-week break and use some down time to study when he's not entertaining his family, who are visiting from south Florida. He predicted the Jets would go to the playoffs this year when he was drafted, and how he performs the rest of this season will have a direct effect on whether they get there.

    "Going back on it, I wouldn't have said that," Smith said. "Obviously, you don't want to make those bold predictions, but you have to live up to it and it's something that I've always thought about.

    "I made that statement and I definitely want to go out there and we want to go to the playoffs because we all do, not just because of that statement."
     
  5. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    I would be curious to see what Lee thinks about Simms.

    It is good that he seems positive about Geno's performance but it would be nice to know what else is going on at QB this year.

    Like Geno or not, if he gets hurt Simms is all we have to roll with.
     
  6. jetemp

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    I think Geno is pretty damm good.
     
  7. Noam

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    Nice to see you back posting Big Blocker. I really like what the Redskins did last year in drafting RG3 in the 1st round and Cousins in the third round. Having 2 young good QBs is a very nice thing to have. Idzik has preached competition. Next year with the strong QB class there should be a lot of good QBs falling allowing us to pickup a good young QB to develop for a cheap price in rounds 3-5. But that all depends on how the CS views Simms.
     
  8. n3putts

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    Actually it was the 4th round and the only reason they did it was because RG3 has a history of being injury prone.

    The Jets have to many holes to fill in the offseason to have to worry about drafting a QB in the first few rounds. There are more glaring needs that have to be addressed.
     
  9. RubenDias

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    I agree we need help at TE WR FS OLB LT but after the 3ºrd round depends on who is avaliable I like Zach Mettenberg a lot if he end up in the 4th round avaliable i think i would give it a shot " he wont be there tho just giving a example.
     
  10. Br4d

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    The first step in not having a QB controversy is to have all the QB's but the starting QB be essentially invisible.

    I'd be really surprised if anybody was talking about anybody but Geno from a "how's he doing?" standpoint.

    They'll talk about Garrard's veteran presence because there's no chance anybody will go "oh, David Garrard, I'd really like to see what he's got."
     
  11. greencrack

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    I am beginning to realize, bringing in a qb especially an earlier rounder, especially if the staff have expressed confidence in Geno going forward, is inviting a Tebow like circus back.
     
  12. The 1985er

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    I agree maybe Garrard fills that role.
     
  13. jetemp

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    That would be true. But they're not drafting any qb's next year. They know what they've got.
     
  14. Falco21

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    No qb will be drafted next draft. It's just not gonna happen. This organization is investing in Geno and rightfully so. You can never go forward if you always draft another qb. Let the kid play and grow and put pieces around him. Don't take a step back and go get another guy
     
  15. TonyMaC

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    being 35 and not having played in a couple years will do that. does make ya wonder how we sort out the backup QB spot though. is Simms good enough, do we need 3 guys including a longer tenured veteran, etc. that might make a bit of buzz, but really the most important part is leaving the starting spot in no doubt.

    Garrard isn't gonna be back next year, he's done after this. I'm pretty sure he can't take another full year on his knees, dudes on his last licks and is just here to be a helping hand and have no regrets.

    a general question that arrises from both you're posts... say we make the playoffs, is Simms still number 2 or would Garrard be moved up?
     
  16. OverloadBlitz

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    Rediculous, just because you have a Franchise QB your supposed to never draft another QB? What if theres an injury to your QB, you are then fucked for the rest of the season. Redskins took RGIII and Kirk Cousins same draft, even the Steelers took Landry Jones. You need to have a competent backup no matter how well Geno does this year and so far hes shown nothing to say hes a Franchise QB.
     
  17. TonyMaC

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    drafting a QB early next year says they lack complete confidence in Geno, drafting a QB late says they lack complete confidence in Simms.

    #5 is our young QB groomed to be a backup if things hold, we should't need to do that even with our allocations if they believe he's the real deal.
     
  18. Falco21

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    And we have a back up. A back up is just that, a back up.

    And yes, Geno hasn't shown much to be labeled as a franchise qb, but you don't go out and take another one. Let the kid grow in the system with pieces around him. Then you make that decision. This organization has made it pretty clear that they want Geno as our guy. You don't then go into a draft and take another one.

    It's a waste of a draft pick at this point. Geno is our guy for right now. Simms has proven he can be a reliable back up. Hell, people on here want him as the starter, which I find hilarious. He is a good option to have as a backup. Why then would you go into a draft that is of imperical importance and take another qb? Why would you use one of your picks for a position that is filled at the present moment? Makes no sense
     
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  19. OverloadBlitz

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    What makes you say the position is filled? I'm a firm believer in taking another QB until you have your guy. If Geno doesn't step up in the rest of the games you absolutely draft another QB and let them compete to be the starter. This is a quarterback league and we don't need another Sanchez debacle where we never drafted competition for his mediocre ass in 4 years he was here.
     
  20. Jeti

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    nothing compares to Tebow

    look if the front office has even an ounce of doubt about Geno being the franchise QB you draft one

    Geno is managing games well by year 3 he's going to be asked to start winning games and he's done it twice this year Atlanta and Buffalo.

    At this point nothing is a sure thing, we all fell in love with Mark after year 1 and while I'm not saying Geno is Mark we have to make sure we get this one position correct
     

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