Listen Mrs. Smith, we all like your son Geno and are hoping he's the real deal. But you need to stop drinking and posting, you're embarrassing yourself and your son. _
this thread is supposed to be about all things Geno if you want to discuss other quarterbacks such as Flacco or Luck, start a thread at the NFL forum and blubber about them to your heart's content if you want to discuss the Jets former starting quarterback who will never take another snap for the Jets, start a really terrific thread to heap praise on him and wish him well in recovery from his injury and in his future endeavors as a career backup for some other NFL team Let's talk about the NY Jets starting QB with a 5-4 record after 9 games that not a single expert on the planet said he or the team had a chance in the world to have achieved. For example, on a Michael Kay segment after the Steeler game, Kay asked a once famous Jet QB and noted radio expert and seller of charcoal grills how he thought the Jets would do in their next three games before the bye against the Patriots, Bengals and Saints. Answer.... Welllll, Machael, ah don' thank the Jeyets hayave a chayance in the world of winnin' any of those gayames" (apologies for trying to recreate his famous deep south Beaver Falls Pennslyvania accent) turns out the Geno Smith led those Jets to victories in TWO of those THREE games we had not a chance in the world to win (and actually FIVE of those NINE gams that the 32nd rated team in the ESPN preseason rankings would certainly lose and lose big) So lets keep talking about the great job Geno Smith has done so far this season and not get sidetracked into discussion of irrelevant others such as Flacco, Luck or Sanchez
are people now complaining about geno smith and the jets being too conservative? is that what i am seeing? listen the guy showed he can throw about any route, he also showed he will make mistakes. so they pulled back the reigns a little bit which is smart. now hopefully they will give him a little bit more every week so he can continue to grow, i will tell you this i am impressed with the way he has taken care of the ball recently. much improved. especially his protection of the ball while running and in the pocket, he has really really come a long way in that aspect.
You're wrong. The Texans with Schaub won a lot of games and went to the playoff in consecutive years. But the debate about him was whether he can be that guy to help them win it all. And finally what happens, he gets bench. Owners and managers get greedy. If their team is making the playoffs every year they'll keep asking why they can't win it all or go pass a certain round. Luck is in the honey moon period of his career so he should enjoy it. Nobody's gonna keep saying "he's gonna be a great one" for the next five years while completing below 60%. I tell you what, that first half against the Texans was atrocious and even scared me how bad a professional can be. The coaching staff can only mask that with the play calling for so long. I watch the games too on NFL Rewind, the coaches try their best to have the check down available for him. And 2 or 3 times per game they'd have Hilton go deep, normally on a safe left corner route. Before you completely buy the hype on Luck, remember his father Oliver Luck was the Manager of the Dynamo and now the athletic director at West Virginia. The media(mostly ex-players) is looking out for Luck. It's a family thing. What you saw on MNF was really what you saw, a mediocre player playing QB. Your eyes did not deceive you.
Give geno sometime, he doesn't lack the physical tools that a lot of flameouts in the NFL lack. Has a big arm and can make all the throws, accurate when given time in the pocket. Give him him time before you take the staves out If he can grasp the mental side of the qb position he can potentially be an elite qb
And then the personal attack begins... Whatever you say, I don't believe in Luck's talent and he'll never prove me wrong because that's the way nature created him. Luck will be the biggest bust in NFL history. And I shall smile. Hopefully this thread is still up.
I'd like to see what this kid can do with some real pro talent around him not scrubs like Nelson, Hill and Rueland. It's too early to tell who Geno Smith is, but there is reason to be excited.
You have to be trolling Luck has 10 4th qtr comebacks Colts were 11-5 last year Colts are 6-2 this year beat the broncos, texans, 49ers, and the seahawks Andrew Luck is playing with nobodies except ty hilton, (not as bad as situation as Genos, but still) The kids incredible, I don't know what your watching
People talk about the lack of weapons. But that is only a small problem compared to the pass rush. Watch the last game again, almost every pass play there is an uncovered rusher with a straight line to Geno. That is one second to make a decision and get rid of the ball. Show me a game where a team had worse pass protection and blitz pickup than the Jets had vs. the Saints. It is a miracle there was not a TO. Our pass protection has been terrible all year. That is the area we need to fix and improve over most during the break. Give Geno time like he had vs. Atlanta, NE and Buffalo and he can be very dangerous. As far as Geno the the improvements I would like to see are all mental. He has amazing accuracy and physical tools. He has improved greatly in terms of stepping up in the pocket and pocket presence. He has calmness and poise beyond his years and he has showed resiliency and toughness. All good qualities but good QBs are good because of they they make fast intelligent decisions. I would like to see more quick decisions and getting rid of the ball quickly like we saw against the Saints. I would like to see him make better reads at the LOS and cut down on having to intentionally throw around 20% of his passes each game. I understand MM and Lee are telling him if its questionable throw it away but he is throwing away a huge number of passes. While Geno has been impressive on 3rd down and moving the chains we are not scoring TDs when we get inside the 30. Part of that again is being conservative. But I would love to see us convert more TDs and open it up a bit more. Geno throws a ton of out passes. They are beautiful plays but risky. I would love to see him throw more passes between the hashmarks. Some slants, some seam passes and a whole lot more passes to our backs. The main thing I want to see is better pre-snap reads, quicker decisions, better red zone conversions and see him use the middle of the field more.
You're pretty much stating to me some win stats the colts have. Within those wins you had RBs rushing yards, tackles made, sacks, catches made, etc. Thanks for the Colts stats, now tell me exactly what Luck did that was so impressive that elevate his team to those wins? And don't tell me his 58% completion were the reason for those win stats because the Jets have someone who did that for 5 years they could use for even cheaper.
This guy has been trolling this crap for weeks. Not sure what the agenda is, but it appears to be a really stupid one. _
Which is a huge problem and one I discussed about in that RC Buford or whatever that clowns name was thread. Too many people have too much pride when it comes to draft evaluating and will refuse to admit they were wrong about a prospect if that said prospect proves them wrong, even in a little aspect.
That's because everyone wants to be an armchair GM. People don't seem to understand that these guys study and study the film. They get paid to travel the nation and find talent. If we don't draft who these fans want, the said person drafted in their place will be a bust.
and armchair gms typically have NO idea what any of the attributes you need to play each position. football has become such a wide reaching sport that its probably watched by more people who have NO IDEA whats going on than the rest of the sports put together. most of these guys havent coached, havent played and really havent even paid any attention to a game in their lives. its all about hanging out and partying and watching highlights, thats the typical nfl fan. they just dont grasp any of the nuances of the game or any of the positions.
As a newbie here, you don't know the backstory. I am talking about posters who were dissing Flacco's on field performance, not his value compared to his current contract.
Geez Brad, what's with the conspiracy theory stuff? I understand there were still some Sanchez holdouts this past off season, but their number has drastically declined. Thank God. But more generally being skeptical about the pick is not the same, obviously, as hoping he fails. I will say this. I do have a concern if we get to the off season and the consensus is that Smith is somewhere between mediocre and average. Given what appears to be likely several Qb picks in the draft, what do the Jets do then? If he is perceived to be mediocre or worse, then the Jets go ahead and try to land another Qb. If he's above average, they stick with him and use picks elsewhere. So I do have that concern.
