As long as Ryan is our HC we should want to play and win games like we did yesterday. If we actually had a couple of reliable weapons who were on the same page as Smith we could have really put the dagger in. We don't the kid played really well. With the weapons he has not fucking up when you have a lead is playing well.
I basically agree with you, but no doubt you are aware there is a counter argument. What matters is in trying to assess how the Jets would do with him as Qb in a game they had to win through the air. In short your post supports the game plan on O more than amounts to a positive assessment of Smith. Since it was only one game, and the gameplan worked, there's nothing wrong with that, and bravo to Marty and the rest of the CS on O. But it didn't really add much info valuable in assessing Smith, either way.
He made plays when he was asked to and called upon....it just wasn't needed in a heavy amount. It is great to win like this.....where everyone just contributes a piece. That's a team win. Of course, we won't get these too often and some players will have bigger roles than others...Geno being one of them as the QB. But if we get a game like this, then it is great. Any QB would have followed this game plan outside of maybe Peyton Manning, Brees and Aaron Rodgers. Luck would have played it this way, Russell Wilson/Dalton/Kaepernick would have too.
agreed. Let him take some occasional shots to keep the D honest. Hopefully everyone takes their vitamins during the bye week, so the potential threat can at least exist
i guess you missed the play where he recongnized a run blitz, checked into a WR screen, and set salas up for a 40+ yard catch and run situations like that are huge for his development ... but you have an agenda so continue to grind that ax
Yes I bring up the worst play of the day -- among his 11 ugly incompletions and his 7 dump offs that is the one play that you look at because it was the only play he tried to make something happen on. On that play he had Hill open for a big gain and instead defaulted to Nelson in triple coverage. He was lucky the ball wasn't picked off on that play. Smith was asked to be an observer yesterday for 4 quarters and the one play he decided not to be was awful so you do have to bring it up. The best pass of the day came from Cribbs!
There were a few things I didn't like about Geno's game, mostly that one throw into triple coverage to be honest. There was another play towards the end where he threw it away instead of taking a sack which would have let more time run off the clock but that was hardly monumental. Still, here's the good thing: He managed the game well. With virtually no talent at the receiver position. He didn't turn over the ball. Given he was playing with the lead a lot of the time so it's not like he had to take shots down the field but I think it's still a good that in certain situations he's capable of managing a game and playing without any turnovers. It's not anything insane to be excited about but it's another dimension to his game that we're seeing.
I thought that was a great play by Geno as well. 5-4 has silenced most of the ax grinders that are still grumbling after Sanchez's injury. Let them gripe...they were the same knuckleheads that were ecstatic last year when Sanchez had a whopping 83 yrds. in a win over the Colts. We beat a very good team yesterday by playing OUR game.
I honestly prefered his performance in Atlanta above all. But you guys asking why he didnt make too many passes dont you see his release time had to be so quick he hardly had time in the pocket for a 3rd read. And above all Rex wanted to controll the pace of the game, you aint gonna win to Brees in a shotout game with hurry up offense. He did ok not great but he managed to get us the W mistake free and its not like he had many oportunities to throw, the game was ground and pound and tbh was very fun to watch that was Jets football even tho it cant be like that all the time cuz you cant run on other defensive fronts like that.
Geno struggled yesterday but it's not fair to evaluate him w/ what he has that is healthy to throw to. The difference btw this year and last year is the OC so we still have a chance but hopefully w/ Holmes and Winslow back after the bye we'll see a much better geno and hopefully Ivory and the run game can keep it up. We have the pieces in place to at least make the playoffs.
I have no agenda like you I want to see Geno do well as I wanted Sanchez to do well. I criticized Sanchez when he played poorly as I criticize Geno when he does. I want Geno to do well but me wanting him to play well does not mean he does. He did not play well Yesterday he was carried by the defense. The plan was to take the air out of the ball. The plan was not to only complete 8 passes. No doubt throwing to the shit he was throwing to did not help much. Taking the air out of the ball helps teams like the Jets win but it does not help the development of a QB.
Which the Jets proved when they took the training wheels off Sanchez.:rofl: You play to win the game. There were plenty of lessons to be learned from yesterdays game. Learning to throw to a bunch of scrubs isn't one of them. They'll be plenty of situations where they'll have to lean on Geno to use his arm. I'm confident in his ability to throw the football....as long as there is someone to catch it.
Here are the QB stats from the 2000 Ravens SB run 9 for 14 130 yards 1TD 5 for 16 117 yards no TD's no INT's 9 for 18 190 yards 1TD 1INT 12 for 25 153 yards 1 TD The Jets are being built to play D and run the football. After Kerley went down, Nelson a Bills cut was our best player in the passing game. Geno played almost a perfect game yesterday. Geno learned a good deal about winning in the NFL yesterday. Geno advanced his game management skills yesterday. Geno has already shown us he can throw the ball down field. He can make touch passes and timing passes toward the sidelines. He throws a nice touch pass on a screen and he can make the short touch pass in the flat. What he hasn't shown yet is can he manage a game. Drew Brees blew 3 timeouts in the first quarter. Had numerous false starts and ran the clock out. He looked like a complete amateur during parts of that game. Don't tell me Geno was horrible and didn't learn anything yesterday. That's complete nonsense. He ran hard counts, took snaps under center, made a great cut on a TD run, didn't turn the ball over and ran a competent O that didn't throw away time outs and make a ton of procedural penalties. The guy played very well and if he didn't we lose that game.
Exactly he does not have to throw for 300 yards every game, he showed us he can throw and he will have to throw in further games cuz the run game wont work so good as it did yesterday. So MM should call passing plays when we are running 5 yards a carry? lol
Geno threw for less the 50% completion percentage and only 115 yards. (which is less yards then those ravens QBs threw for that ur pointing out) We didnt win this game because of Geno, we won it DESPITE Geno. Could u imagine if we had a QB like Brees playing for us?? We would have demolished them. Were lucky our running game took off, and our Defense played lights out, cuz otherwise we'd be 4-5.
Wow, are you serious? Drew Brees would have lit it up with David Nelson and Salas as his top weapons? Geno haters are incredible.
I love this argument? It basically boils down: We would have played better if we had a top 5 QB this season and for the past 5 years in league! No way, a top 5 QB would make this team better, who would have thought it?! :smile:
