Trading Deadline Blues

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  1. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    Their leading rusher: Drafted by NE
    Their starting TE: Drafted by NE
    Their starting QB: Drafted by NE

    How'd they get Randy Moss? They traded a pick that wasn't even originally theirs in the first place and it was just a fourth rounder. Plus he was proven talent.

    Yea, they traded a second for Wes Welker. Wes Welker didn't have off the field issues and it was going into his fourth year. New England new exactly what they were getting.
     
  2. tcw722

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    Mike Reiss ‏@MikeReiss 4m

    Eagles report that they have traded DT Isaac Sopoaga and 6th-round pick to the Patriots for a 5th-round pick.
     
  3. Jets Esq.

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    Draft picks are very important in the NFL because they're the only way to get a talented roster with depth. There just isn't enough cap space to allow you to build your team through free agency, as you can in the MLB.

    What the better teams have in common is that they build through the draft, and when the media is getting all excited about free agents, they lay low and let the other teams get into bidding wars and overpay. (The only exception is if you can get Payton Manning or Brett Favre or someone like that. Then you go into a bidding war if you don't have a good QB.)

    What the lousy teams have in common is that they are always wheeling and dealing, trading up in the draft, overpaying for big-name free agents, and using short-term strategies every year while the quality of their roster erodes.

    The Jets need to keep rebuilding through the draft, and make sure they extend stars like Mo Wilkerson this offseason.
     
  4. wewantsapp

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    There was no such thing in the entire JETS organization back in 1995.
     
  5. gustoonarmy

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    Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 4s

    Confirmed with the league office that just 1 trade went down at the deadline, the Pats/Eagles trade.


    Ta-Dah!!! woopidy-do
     
  6. Mitch_Dumstein

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    so with all the blabbering about Nicks, Fitzgerald and god knows who else...


    what do we end up with at the NFL Trade Deadline


    Isaac Sopuaga whatever that is to the Evil Empire for a swap of day 3 picks...

    in other words, like EVERY other year in the NFL since forever

    NOTHING
     
  7. ScotsJet

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    The Jets' leading passer, rusher, runner, receiver, linebacker, DL were all drafted by the Jets, our leading TE was an UDFA of ours.

    It's an argument that can only go in circles. When you have a hall of fame QB the chances are whatever strategy you use will look smart.
     
  8. Biggs

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    What the 49ers, Seahawks, Colts, Bengals have in common is they sucked bad enough to get the right picks at the top of the drafts.

    The Pats cheated and the Saints bought Brees in FA.

    Suck long enough to get tons of early draft picks, buy the right FA and cheat a little seems to be the formula.
     
  9. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

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    That's not even that impressive of a list.

    The point was that a second round pick doesn't ensure anything.
     
  10. Barcs

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    Yeah, NFL definitely isn't like the NBA at the deadline. There's a reason big time deadline trades rarely happen. It's not simple to switch from one system to another. You can't always just plug and play like in basketball where you have that type of freedom on the court. You need 11 guys all coordinating together on the same page each play.
     
  11. displacedfan

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    Yeah you get your core of young players who are talent and on cheap contracts. You have your key veterans who can add stability and experience. You have your talented QB who is usually a key young player or in rare instances like Peyton and Brees a talented QB for whatever reason left the previous team.

    The interesting thing is afterwards when a that young talented QB gets paid for helping win a SB, do you have money to keep the team going strong at other posiions and keep the young talent high with later picks in the draft.


    The Jets need to do the first part so we can finally worry about the second part
     
  12. CurbYourEnthusiasm

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    This is somewhat inaccurate. The Pats get wayyyy too much credit for their recents drafts. Go back to their drafts over the past few years. There isn't much there. Go look at the atrocity of their '06 to '08 drafts. It's hideous to look at. Gronk and more recently Jones and Hightower have saved their stinkfest of drafts. The reason they're successful year after year is because they have a HOF QB and HOF coach.
     
  13. BeastBeach

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    I find this interesting also. Teams like the Packers, Ravens, Giants,etc who reward their SB winning QB with monster contracts have struggled afterwards.

    I am wondering how long it will take before teams realize this and either let a premier QB hit the open market or the QB is willing to take less money in exchange for having better talent around them. More rings leads to more money from marketing, etc.

    Obviously the Packers would never have let A-Rod hit the market but a guy like Flacco? Idk man. And look at the Falcons with Ryan. Not a good spot to be in when you pay the man before they at least get a ring.
     
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    Giants are stupid for not trading Nicks.
     
  15. Br4d

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    The Flacco mega-contract was a rare bad decision by the Ravens and it looks like they are going to pay full price for it.
     
  16. pdxdrew

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    How many picks do we have? Just curious.
     
  17. CurbYourEnthusiasm

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    Believe we'll have the extra 3rd from Revis (he should be on their opening day roster for 2014). We gave up a 4th for Ivory. Think everything else we have (1,2,3,3,5,6,7).

    We should also be in line for quite a few compensatory picks as well. A couple of 5ths at least, hopefully better.
     
  18. displacedfan

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    Yeah Rodgers definitely not, he's definitely one of the best QBs year in and year out. Matt Ryan is a great QB year in and year out. Flacco is well a good QB year in and year out, yet they are all paid in that top tier.

    I don't think a team could let a QB walk after helped win a SB. I also wonder if it's the contract or the age of the QB. When you get older, you get paid that huge contract. Older QBs generally don't help their teams win SBs. What leads to other? But I think the contract plays a part.

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Age_of_winning_Super_Bowl_quarterbacks

    http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2013/01/21/john-elways-winning-super-bowls/18254/

    Yeah they paid dearly for 4 great games from Flacco, one of the best QB performances in a SB run in the last 15-20 years surprisingly enough, but that wasn't or isn't the norm for Flacco
     
  19. Biggs

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    It's not just the young talented QB. There are usually a core of good players who were drafted in a tight window when the teams that win weren't very good. They all start knocking on the contract door at the same time or within a year or two of each other. You start pulling a core piece out that you drafted No. 5 in the first round and replace him with a guy you drafted No. 32 and chances are you're not getting the same replacement talent. Not to mention you lose some of that veteran leadership. Guys on SB teams usually have some real good people in the locker, some of whom are going to be replaced by guys who aren't as mature.
     
  20. CurbYourEnthusiasm

    CurbYourEnthusiasm Well-Known Member

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    Ahhh good call. Thought it was next years 4th. Thanks.
     

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