Kingtut is really Geno's Mom. According to One-note Tut, no other QB in the league can compare to him. Strongest arm. Most accurate. Fastest. Bestest runner. And a better leader than Alexander. _
Lol. There may never be another Manning. I'd take Luck right now over any QB in the league. Any of them. _
He's certainly not a once in a generation QB like Brady or Manning or Brees. I see him more like a Phillip Rivers or Tony Romo. Pretty good, but not elite.
Based on age I'd take Luck over Rogers right now. Rogers is phenomenal- best in the league IMHO. I'd still take Luck because you'll have him for another 5 years after Rogers is done. _
And you'd be wrong. Luck took a 2-14 team to an 11-5 record and the playoffs and threw for the most yards ever as a rookie. He is the very definition of a once in a generation QB. Gezzuz what are you guys watching? _
Yes. Hey, I've admitted Rogers is the best QB in football, better than Brady Bree's and Payton. I'd still take Luck right now. _
This whole rant is just very wrong. Luck has done nothing impressive statistically so far. This year he's completing 60% of passes which is like 2% more than the 2nd round rookie Smith who you seem to downplay. Rodgers is at the height of his powers and he's only 29. It's likely that he has at least about 8 years left to post the same type of gawdy stats that he has for years and give his team multiple chances at Super Bowl runs. Luck is a promising young QB on a reasonably talented roster, but there is no guarantee that he can ever come close to Rodgers in terms of ability. He certainly hasn't done anything yet to prove that he will ever reach that level. Even if he does, both the Packers and the Colts have proven that it's possible to move on from one aging superstar QB to a younger version when the opportunity presents itself. That means that when Rodgers is getting ready to retire a long time from now they might be able to replace him with a QB with a higher ceiling than the hypothetical superstar future Luck. Maybe Luck will develop and do all of those things but so far he has proven next to nothing in terms of being the best QB in the NFL so anybody in their right mind would rather have Rodgers at this moment. And for the record Geno and some other young QB's drafted in the past couple of years have shown some positives that could put themselves in the running to become at least as good or better than Luck even if he does pan out like everyone thinks. The point is that there are a lot of unclear variables about ranking the recent QB classes, Rodgers on the other hand is the sure thing for years to come.
Lol, you have no idea what you are talking about. I have never downplayed anything about Geno- I've given him incredible props for his accuracy and his playmaking ability but Godforbid I mention a turnover or 3. If you don't think Luck hasn't done anything impressive statistically so far you are either a Luck hater or a Geno ball washer willing to put down any other young QB that might possibly challenge him as being better. Seriously, you're one of those "stat" guys? And you're dumping on Luck? 2-14 to 11-5 says LOLGFY. You're the worst type of homer- and I'm a pretty bad homer- but nobody in the league is taking Geno over Luck other than you, One-note Tut and about 10 other guys here. And as GREAT as Rogers is- and he is great, again the best IMHO, me and a bunch of folks would STILL take Luck given the age and money factor right now. Tell me I'm wrong. _
Over your head obviously by a fair margin. I would take Luck over Geno almost as fast as I'd take Rodgers over Luck but there are aspects to Geno's game that are probably ahead of where Luck was last year and I was making a point there's no guarantee Luck turns out better than Geno let alone all of the other up and coming QB's. Don't even know how to respond to the 'stats are for retards' attitude other than pointing out that you've got it a little backwards. Also, Before the 2-14 season the Colts went 10-6, 14-2, 12-4, 13-3, 12-4, 14-2, I could go on. They lost Manning and tanked it for Luck then got the 1st pick in each round which is an advantage in case that's news to you. Kind of like the Chiefs being undefeated this year. Anyway I'm sure that you feel pretty safe in your opinion because some troll on ESPN told you it's right but until Luck actually wins a playoff game and/or puts out better than middling or bottom tier stats for a year you don't really have a leg to stand on. Until then he's just another young QB with a possibility of being great in the future but isn't there yet. Learn the difference.
Look at his stats from last year and he does not look great at all. However, he did take the team to the playoffs! Stats are for losers! The only stat that is meaningful is the won and loss record!
I would take Rodgers over any QB on the planet ... but to his credit, Luck has already beaten the Broncos, 49ers, and Seahawks this season. Probably the best resume of any QB in the league through 7 weeks.
The Colts made NO effort to win that year they went 2-14. They tanked super hard in an effort to get Luck, then built the team up that off-season.
Learn the difference? Why because my opinion is different than yours? And you think MY opinion is based on what some ESPN troll says? LOLGFY I've been watching and following Luck since 2010 at Stanford and my future son- in- law has been a Colts fan since childhood. I bought him a custom Colts Luck jersey for Christmas in 2011 BEFORE the Colts had locked up the top pick, we talk about him every week and anytime the Colts are on they come and watch the game at my house. I happen to think he is already a great QB and you dont. Opinions. Learn the difference. _
Like I said, Rogers is the best QB ON the planet right now, I'd just take Luck. It's like having an opinion different from the norm is a crime here- or that my opinion is so outlandish. It's not as if I'm saying I'd rather have Tannyhill or Glennon. _
the thing is, you can't look at his stats in a vacuum like that. He was in an offense that emphasized the deep ball, which is a lower-percentage pass. With the deep-ball emphasis, you're going to have a lower completion percentage and throw a few more INTs. If you're in a WCO, or another one that emphasis the short/timing routes, the QBs completion percentage should be higher because you're throwing safer passes. With that, you should also have fewer INTs. To bring this back to Geno, MM has a combination of the two offenses. The Jets offense is WCO at its base; featuring a lot of horizontal routes to stretch out the defense, but it includes a lot of vertical routes. Geno has shown the ability to hit these deep routes, but he's also thrown a few INTs and had a few misfires.
The thing about this is that Geno has tended to throw most of his INTs on short to middle routes especially when he's facing pressure and ends up making a bad read or decision. I think only 2 or 3 of the picks have come on deep throws which is really a testament to his downfield efficiency. Despite your point about the Colts more aggressive passing attack Geno is still putting out higher YPA and YPC than Luck in either of his 2 seasons. Luck also gets to play half his games on that indoor track in Indy while Geno is going to have to start braving the New York winter. Unfortunately I think that is the biggest risk to Geno's potential because we've already seen him fall apart once in the rain in New England like he did last year so there is a trend being established that he might not play well in bad weather, a fatal flaw playing for the Jets if it can't be corrected. The other issue is obviously whether he keeps turning the ball over but there seems to be a positive trend developing in that area which is reason for optimism. If that keeps up as the weather gets cold and shitty while he keeps getting big chunks of yards we'll know we're looking at the future of the franchise within a couple months. If not it'll take at least one more year of evaluation. Another good point. For Geno to hold his own against other top recent rookie QB's with the lack of offensive talent around him is really impressive. So far the Jets have gotten a lot more than they bargained for with Geno, I'm sure Indy and its fans think they're getting what they need from Luck but it's nice to look at a QB wearing green with a chance to stand up to the best for a change.
