In today's NFL it's about a pass rush and limiting yards after the catch. The league is set up for 60-65% of passes to be complete. Pass interference, holding, illegal contact, etc are quite often subjective in the eye of the referee. Limit the deep ball, make teams go 70-80 yards to score. I thought the secondary did an adequate job. Cro took away the deep threat in Julio. One deep ball which was a great catch by Jones. He almost had that TD which he dropped but overall Ryan threw the short to intermediate stuff and they made Atlanta drive the length of the field. Gonzalez is an all time great and has done this to everyone but he rarely got YAC. Lankster was on him like a blanket on that one 3rd down but a good throw and catch made that play almost indefensible.
Will answer all of these posts about the league here..because you are totally correct...the league has become a joke. With that said, with the pass rush the Jets are getting....the secondary should be making some plays and they make none. A.C. is a pass interference machine right now...even on plays he doesnt have to. There was the out of bounds throw by Manuel at the end of that game that should have been pass interference on him. He holds every play. Wilson hasnt looked back on a pass in years. Walls was better but gets beat all the time. Landry is horrible. When you get the kind of pass rush...a pass rush that the Jets have been searching for for decades...it should help make this secondary much better and this secondary will do this team in. As far as the feared Falcons...they came in with the one of the worst red zone stats in the NFL. This nonsense about posting stuff like this after a big win..nobody is happier than me...but lets not be fooled into thinking this secondary is doing anything to match what the front 7 are doing.
Cromartie is having a good season. It doesn't look like it at times on the surface but he's being asked to play the Darrelle Revis role and single cover the opponent's biggest threat. That's a role that is hard to play. Typically the #1 CB single covers the opponent's #2 WR and the defense schemes to take away the #1 with over and under coverage from the #2 CB, the FS, LB's on underneath patterns, etc. As we can see from the results, if the guy playing that role can just break even then you're in good shape.
I think you're dead wrong. Through 5 games Atlanta is no. 1 in pass attempts and they are completing close to 70% of their passes. The league average this year is 65.5%. When over 65% of passes are completed on a league wide basis and you're in a dome going up against one of the most prolific passing attacks in the NFL you might come up with a very different conclusion. The Jets D is very much doing what you want a D in today's game to do. There were 2 turnovers to be had tonight that we just didn't make the play on. They will come. The stop at the end of the first half was about as big as it gets. You can't expect to go into Atlanta and stone them all game. They are a big play team that completes a huge percentage of short range passes. We did what we needed to do.
I agree with you..some people want an all pro at every position and the reality is it isn't going to happen. The Jets at their current pace will have a top 5 defense at the end of the year just like Ryan said they would and that's good enough for me.
yeah Julio Jones is one of the best Wrs in the game right now and he has a very good QB throwing him the ball. Cro was on him all day and played a great game imo.
Even with White banged up and no Steve Jackson, the Atlanta passing attack is likely to be one of the best the Jets will see all season. I think that needs to be kept in mind for perspective.
Other than the Saints I think its the best. Pats are still up there with Gronk and Amendola healthy. Cinci has some great weapons too but Dalton is no Matt Ryan.
Here's the situation. Cro is doing exactly what's expected of him, he's being our #1 guy. He makes some shockingly bad mistakes sometimes but that's okay. Walls is a big surprise to me, he's playing like a solid #2 for what his experience level is. Wilson, I don't care what anyone says, Kyle is having a good season in terms of improvement. He had ONE bad stretch against the Bills but played great the rest of the game. I think he's turning his play around unlike his head however. our BIGGEST problem is our dogshit safety play. Dawan Landry is a sorry excuse of a player. Dude cant tackle or cover so what's he doing out there? Antonio and Josh where you at? Nothing great happening with either. Safety is our secondarys problem folks.
You don't pick up lottery tickets for anyone do you? If you do, I suggest you don't any more... +1 To add to BB's perspective, Walls was on the Falcons practice squad all last year. That +1 for walls improving and +1 for Rex coaching him up to starter status. Wilson is not good, and we def need an upgrade at CB - hopefully Milliner will stop being so "Pennington". Landry doesn't suck, he's just not as good as his little brother.
Biggs...I really could care less about Atlantas stats...I do care about their record. I will throw out this game and call it a solid game for the line and the linebackers and go back to the previous games. Turnovers to be had? What does that mean? They could have given up 60 points to a team like Atlanta and I would be impressed if what I saw was a good secondary. They got rid of their two strengths in safetys and replaced them with two guys that are not even close. Do you really believe that A.C. is having a year close to last year? Listen...the rules suck...I get that. They did not do what they needed to do...again. They allowed a team to go down and get the potential winning score again..and again...and again. Under Rex, this team allows teams to go down the field at will..no matter who they are playing. We disagree....I think the Jet front line is top 5 NFL right now...and the secondary should benifit and they have not..not one bit. Ryan completed 80% of his passes too.
We didn't get rid of our strength at safety we couldn't afford to keep our strength at safety. We upgraded the front line and it shows. I really don't know what you want in the secondary? Milner was out last night and nobody was running free. Last night was a terrific football game. I don't know how any Jets fan can be complaining about that win.
Its not about what I want...I just think Wilson sucks...Landry sucks...Walls played a bit better but up until yesterday...he has been horrible. I will say this...Lankster should be used more...he is a decent one on one guy. My point is simple...teams that put pressure on the qb should benefit in the secondary. Im not sure its that we do not have that talent on the this roster and this guys might come together at some point. If A.C. continues to play like this compared to last year it would be a complete injustice to Rex and the front line. With the way this line is playing, the secondary should be able to make plays. If you compare the past 4 years with this year, those secondarys were standing on their heads with zero pass rush. When you know...you know...a qb has a limited time to make a play...the secondary should flourish. The Giants superbowl year comes to mind. Their secondary after Rolle was good at best. They made plays because of the pressure of the front line. I mean...doesnt everyone agree this line is making it much easier for the secondary this year compared to years past? Last week against the Titans..that was a disgrace back there. I just cant believe their play should not be helped big time by the work of the front line....and front line that allows a couple big running plays..but for the most part no running game whatsoever.
I just read from the top down in this thread on this page..ok..maybe its me. We shall see. Maybe Im expecting more from these guys. If I were a team going against the Jets I would throw long all day long because we are a pass interference waiting to happen. I hope im wrong and we shall see. It could be me? Im sure maybe it could be.
We hardly got pressure on MRyan because his release is so friggin quick. A less decisive QB would have been on their ass all night. While the pocket is collapsing and moving around, MRyan is so fast on the trigger that there is no time for the front 7 to get there. The stats DO mean something because the ATL O can move the ball and score points. But if the D is a sieve and they are giving up MORE points then we win. That's pretty much what happened. Consider the Jets lucky that our offense what able to put more points on the board than the Falcons.
oh really? If we gave up 60 but played good you'd be cool? You're so full of it! Seattle must really suck big D in their secondary, they just gave up 140 and 2 touchdowns to TY Hilton. We just went into the Georgia Dome and did what only 5 other teams have done in the Matt Ryan era, hand them a loss. And we just did what Nobody else has done, give them a back to back loss at home. The D held one of the best offences in the league to 21, I'm not holding that last TD against them because it was all bullshit. We stuffed them on 4th down, the PI call is one of the worst phantom calls I've ever witnessed. And you're whining about our secondary not being Darrelle Revis clones.
very good post... that first half stop, after refs gave Atl another opportunity, was a huge moment in the game. also agree they did leave 2 TO opportunities out on the field. I think capitalizing on those opps will improve if they keep playing like this. hard to believe there are 8 new starters, and lots of inexperience, yet still playing this well as a whole.
lol....im so full of it? You have no idea how I feel about certain wins and losses so take your computer muscles and shove them..deal? and that last td was bullshit? Who is full of shit? The call was meant to be on Harris and another Jet who were grabbing Gonzales well past the 5 yards. The problem with fans like you is that you can not be critical of anything the team or coach does...you live in lala land and thats cool with me. Just take your "your so full of it!!" and shove it because thats exactly how I feel. You are ok with a guy like A.C. who is having half the year he had last year and I am not. You are ok with a guy like Wilson who has not turned his head back to look at at a ball coming his way since his college days. Im just curious...if thats how I feel..what is my motive big shot? What is the motive to be so full of it? You are going to compare on game by the Seahawks secondary to the way the Jets secondary has played? Now who the hell is really full of it?
