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Anti-motorcycle legislation coming right up. Followed by an ACLU challenge to any law that interferes with bikers rights to assemble in public. Seriously, more than a few bikes should require a permit for a ride on any public thoroughfare in NYC. I hate it when I see one bike because of a few bad accidents I have witnessed. I can't imagine being on the West Side Highway with 30 or 40 bikers around me and a few of them doing stupid things.
easy to deduce what happened. dumbfuck in the car probably almost hit one of them, so they slowed down to fuck with him; the car bumps them as they slow down. then as they block him from proceeding he runs them over, and they pursue him. the the cyclists are at fault for trying to intimidate and threaten him, and the motorist should go to jail for trying to kill them. everybody goes to jail. society is a better place. the end.
End of story here. The guy was in his car with his wife and 2 year old and a bunch of bikers decided that they needed to interact with him in a more meaningful way than just moving on by and going about their day. This isn't Mad Max. It's NYC.
Saw the video and read on this...Screwthese bikers...I hope they get thrown in jail...Fucking reckless assholes Aspiring rapper can aspire to blame himself for his own damn mistakes I'd run over these assholes too if they were riding around me and I had my wife and 2 year old...I hear the parents of the disabled guy want to sue Lien. Good luck with that. Lol at this comment: "The best part is that Mieses won't be able to reproduce anymore."
I don't think it is that simple. you can't just run people over because you are scared. they are damaging your car, so what? that is what the cops and insurance are for. you don't get to just run over people. I am not justifying the bikers actions. they are scumbags that got what they deserve morally and brought it on themselves; but legally did the car driver escalate the situation disproportionately to the threat by running them over? I don't know. I cant see what is going on at the moment he decides to run them over, but that is the deciding factor. would I run them over if they were beating my car and slashing my tires? probably not. but if they broke my windshield and tried to rip me out of my car, I certainly would. from a civil suit standpoint, the biker wouldn't stand a chance from a reasonable or emotional jury. I wouldn't award him damages for instigating a situation, even if the driver over reacted. don't put the driver in that position. from a legal standpoint, I am not sold on the driver being completely absolved for his actions. it would depend on the circumstances I cant see on the video.
Fuck the "poor" bikers "So what?" Er, got it: "Hello officer, I'm traveling 55 mph on the West Side H'way as I speak and I dare say ol' chap, I'd like to report a group of about 40 motorcyclists who are acting in a most inhospitible manner towards me, my wife Buffy and child Skippy......what's that?....give you a description of them?......er, hold on a second, my insurance agent's on the other line..." Well it seems like you are in just so many words when you take it upon yourself to assume some action on the part of the driver (that is, the "dumb fuck driver" YOU referred to him as) initiating the incident. That more than speaks for itself. Aw, poor, widdle biker's legs got run over???....cry me a fucking river.... I hope the fuck has to change his name to "Neil." On a brighter note, the W.C. Field's movie "If I Had a Million" which deals with these type of road hogs comes to mind: except in dealing with today's more vicious type of scumbag, instead of W.C. Field's "vigilante" fleet of cars serving as the "get even" prop, I would've maybe liked to have seen a trio of 18-wheelers in front of the bikers, gradually sloowing down....essentially setting up a moving wall across-the-three-lanes in front of them.....with a trio of 18-wheelers approaching them from the rear.....the rear trio of 18-wheelers slowly closing the gap between them.....ah and now the good part: ....bikers.....trapped inside a slowly closing "Vice on Wheels"..... *cue trumpets* ....here comes the cavalry to the rescue!!... ....[size=+2] CRUNCH!....squish!.....*screams* [/size] Bikers dead? Most of 'em.... (smirk) And I wouldn't have blinked. The End. Good movie. Siskel & Ebert: two thumbs up. :up: :up:
I don't know what made those crotch rocket dipshits force the guy to stop in the first place, but they got him to stop and the camera doesn't cover what happens while it is stopped. Then he runs over a few bikes. Stands to reason that something was going on while he was stopped the first time to force him to abandon the caution that he showed by letting that guy slam on his brakes to stop him in the first place. Why would he slow down and stop when one bike slams on his brakes in front of him and then run 3-4 bikes over 30 seconds later after the vehicle is stopped?
Did you miss the part where they were trying to open the door? In retrospective, the guy made a mistake of going off the highway. He should've gone to the GWB instead, as there are always cops there.
1. Incident is instigated by the biker through multiple unsafe acts. 2. Once these guys start assaulting the vehicle that the family is in, they are rightfully able to protect themselves (flee the area). 3. Guy getting runned over..........tough $H1t a$$hole. Don't stay in front of the vehicle.
apparently I did. these are the only descriptions I see of what they were doing during the initial confrontation: no mention of trying to open his door. again, no mention of them trying to open his door, just damaging his car. they don't mention them trying to open the door until after they had already chased him down and after the initial confrontation when he ran them over: I am talking about what caused him to run them over, not what happened afterwards. actually, yes, you are supposed to call the cops if you feel threatened. that is how society works. complex thought is a problem for you. I am sorry that you cannot follow complex situations where there are multiple elements that can be discussed independently. the fact that is what you reduced my argument to simply reveals your own deficiency is grasping an argument that is addressing multiple things at once. trying to deflect that deficiency with your ridiculous example above actually only magnifies it because it reveals an inability to actually dispute what I stated so you attempt to mock it. no, it doesn't speak for itself because you are clearly have such an inability to grasp what was stated that you ignored that I already condemned the bikers and asserted they got what they deserved. that is separate from whether the driver was justified, legally, to run them over in the very beginning of the confrontation. someone damaging your car does not allow you to run them over and then claim you bare no responsibility for such. but you are clearly unable to address the beginning of the situation independent of what follows. the only thing relevant to what I stated about the driver's responsibility is what happened prior to him running them over, not what they do afterwards.
edit: actually its probably not right to joke about such things. I can understand the driver being scared in that situation esp with his family in the car - I would've just driven off as well I imagine.
no, you continue to be a simpleton. what is going on in the video that shows running them over was justified? it can't be seen. and the reports say they were only damaging his car, not attacking him. I understand being frightened, but having your tires slashed does not permit you to run them over. to dispute my position would require you to claim running someone over is justified if they slash your tires and dent your car. only ignorance could claim that position.
i'd say, if someone is attempting to slash my tires and is beating on my car and i am out manned 30-1 i am pretty safe in assuming that they are going to hurt me before the cops arrive if i stay put. and if fleeing involves turning 1 or 2 of the 30 into a speed bump in the process,well
