Cromartie's trade value

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  1. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    First Revis then Cro, it would be defensive suicide , no
     
  2. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    We are only paying him $6M..why on earth would we trade him and for what, a pick? As others have said we would have had to start 0-7 or something and even then I can't see trading him.
     
  3. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Judging by the 30 one-liner posts about what a bad thread this is, it's easy to tell how completely overrated Antonio Comartie is by fans on this forum.

    Cro is a good corner. He has the physical skill to compete with receivers that have similar physical skills to him.

    The kind that are big, fast, hardly ever run finesse routes, and don't bother to mentally affect the corner assigned to them because they are used to using physical ability to outperform defenders without actually expanding their game.

    The WR versions of Cro, actually.

    He may be the best corner we have, but his loss isn't even close to the impact of losing Revis, and the loss of Revis wasn't made okay because we had Cro. Not even close. This guy is only a slightly above average corner due to his inability to cover finesse receivers. The PFF stats calling him a great corner are without context and not worth the html they are printed on.
     
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  4. OverloadBlitz

    OverloadBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Im not 100% on this but didn't he restructure his contract to backload it until next year?
     
  5. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Oh boy, This conversation shoulda happened before the Revis trade. Why in gods name would we trade Cro?Have you not seen Dee Millner play? Are you one of those guys who just watch the highlights on ESPN? That would leave Wilson and Millner getting chased around the field.Cro has a hip injury and i think he has played pretty solid
     
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    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    What even started this conversation? I could see us Trying to trade Wilson next offseason but Cro aint going anywhere.Besides a few plays against Tampa i think hes looked solid
     
  7. OverloadBlitz

    OverloadBlitz Well-Known Member

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    No I watched him pretty closely over the last 3+ seasons, he doesnt get a pass from me just because he made a pro bowl last year, if you think hes been pretty solid so far this season you obviously havent watched him too much.
     
  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    This is the same incorrect opinion that has furthered the idea that Cro is a solid starter.

    He is pretty one dimensional and people don't even register his mistakes.

    Watch the fucking game.


    Edit: Cro is a solid starter. Not very good, and not even close to Revis. He's solid. Above average. Nothing to write home about.
     
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  9. Burnz

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    Keep Cro no K dub for now please no K Dub
     
  10. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    Huh? Who is saying Cro is great? trading Cro right now and going with....? Unless we are going all 'Browns' and going for broke on the whole rebuild.
    I agree that he may be overrated by a few people, but he is our best corner and the average fan will not tolerate losing another top corner in such quick succession.
    I agree with your assessment of him and have said pretty much the same thing in another thread.

    Devils advocate here, Ok , lets trade him, to who and for what? Who also are we going to plug into his side of the field?

    The suggestion of trading him during this season is ludicrous and preposterous.
     
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    A) Where did I say people were calling him great?

    B) read post #39
     
  12. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    Fair play, I also assumed that
    people were calling him great
     
  13. Brook!

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    No just no. Not yet anyway.
     
  14. Moonshine

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    No way, I repeat, no way in hell do you trade Cromartie. The weak link on this great defense is the young secondary (and Calvin Pace). Cro holds down the secondary. Yesterday he gave up 6 yards total.

    Revis got a first and what? I think a third? Cro's not Revis... I think the best you could hope for is maybe 2 mid-round picks, or a 2nd.

    On the other hand there are a few teams that are DESPERATE for Corners. In fact one's about an hour away on I75. I could see Philly overpaying for Kyle Wilson or maybe even Walls. But you're still talking late picks at best. Two years ago Asante Samuel fetched a 7th. Arizona had to THROW IN a 2nd with a DRC (a first round pick, who at the time looked very promising) to get an unproven backup QB.

    I dont see the Jets making any big moves. There's not enough in it for them. Unless they can pull some kind of crazy deal like when the Bengals robbed the Raiders royally with a former USC star QB, this team will remain as it is until the offseason.
     
  15. displacedfan

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    Depends on what you get. You don't trade him just because for a late pick. He's still a good corner for us and while he makes mistakes, is a good corner to keep from having to force ourselves to throwing Dee out there which Rex doesn't seem to want to do.

    Unless a team comes to us offering a nice pick, I wouldn't be actively trying to shop him.
     
  16. Barcs

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    Cromartie is great. Let's not forget he saved that touchdown with his speed, something that a large portion of the NFL would not be able to do. Nobody seems to mention that Cromartie is hardly even targeted in the first place. People only remember bad plays, because they are the only ones that show on TV. He's more than above average, but obviously he is no Revis. If we were going to trade Cromartie, it would have made way more sense to do it during the off season when his value was the highest, and keep Revis instead. That ship has already sailed.
     
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  17. Moonshine

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    He is great. I think he's underrated because he gets compared to Revis, and Revis is a once in an era kind of player. His worst quality is getting the yellow flags tossed at him, but show me the game where he consistently got burned.

    Keep in he usually plays press man coverage without help. He's the reason Antonio Allen can play in the box or blitz, which is where he's most effective. He's the reason QC will never have to drop back in coverage, which he simply can't do. It's like a domino effect. If you take away the only corner you can trust in man coverage you have to drop another safety back. If you have to drop another safety back, linebackers have to play the middle, or maybe you have to bring in an extra DB which means taking an LB out.

    Big picture Cromartie is essential to what Rex is trying to do.

    Also there's no way we trade Revis if Cro didnt play close to Revis' level last year. I think the fact that he completely balled out was the deciding factor in dropping Revis' huge contract and getting something for him while we still could. And hey that trade's looking pretty good in hindsight. And I wont lie, I was one of the people who was vehemently against trading Revis for anything.
     
  18. papapump

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    That would be really dumb. No way Cro is traded.
     
  19. Will-I-Am-Not

    Will-I-Am-Not Well-Known Member

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    Cromartie is a top ten corner in the league. There's no reason why we should trade him
     
  20. The Dark Knight

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    The Jets are 2-1. Not 0-3. Don't trade anyone right now......especially Cro.
     

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